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John, CCR has nothing to do with it - I am talking the gear sloppery. Sure, if I have to rebreather dive, I use a mechanical and dive with a buddy, but then I don't have nine deaths to make excuses for, do I , John, and I do not have to prove anything like these guys do - I already proved it a long time ago before I ever started diving. Using a CRR for this kind of diving is like using plutonium in a rat trap. On the one hand we hear how tough these dark, cold water WW2 wreck dives are, but then you tell me they are negotiable with bottles ponied behind the back. Which is it? Are they so easy that any slopped together "kit" is acceptable, or are they in fact difficult dives which would be better done with neatly organised kit? You tell me our system won't work for your divers, but that a clustery of gear sprayed all over the body is easy for the same divers? Not likely. More beliveable is that you just have not bothered to look closely enough to understand our methods, and how very simple and foolproof they really are. Let's just look at one aspect. We can identify our gases very easily: the long hose is on the right post and around behind the neck - it contains back gas, and is either in the mouth or clipped to the right chest d ring. The back up is on the left post, and is secured around the neck with an elastic of some type - we know this is the backup and we know it is back gas. Our other gases are marked on the bottles by breathable depth, and are TURNED OFF and PARKED unless they are being breathed, so we do not confuse them with eich other or with our primary and backup backgas regulators. There are no other markings, or identifiers on these hoses or regs - they are not needed and to use such identifiers invites a mistake. Now, John, if I have bottles turned on behind my back with hoses everywhere , tell me how that is a smart thing to do? Explain that "system" to me, and how DIR is so difficult and requires an "olympic athelete" to use effectively. It is your resentments talking here - DIR is the simple , easy system. John Thornton wrote: > > Hi George > I know most of these guys and deep air is not in the make up of the guys > I know, some of them are ex offenders but as far as I know no more. > certainly when they have dived with me there has been no deep air stuff, > all use ENDs of about 35-40m. If they did different on this trip then I > agree with you George. > Being that I now use a CCR and I seem to be aware of your opinions on > them I cant see the problem with asking why the oxygen is a problem, i > assume that its because of the back mount, what is wrong with that? > Of all the configs I have seen the bottom line is familiarity with your > set up. Your DIR system has caused a lot of probs to people using it in > their early days up here, the left stage cylinder mounting is great for > you guys but I have seen some real laughs and confusion with it. > Possibly because they dont follow a regime that rivals an Olympic > athlete but there again very few do. Simplistic is the key, I am > delighted that your set up works as well for you guys as it does, I am > also glad that the config these guys use works for them. > Skin bends I know occur in all diving, including yours, if you have the > secret then pass it on, let them decide whether to follow it up or not. > If any idiot can do it then so be it, I suppose that some are bigger > idiots than others. > > keep up the good work George > > John Thornton > > In message <37E6C05F.3659@sa*.ne*>, kirvine@sa*.ne* writes > >John Thornton wrote: > >> > >> Hi George > >> > >> Seem to manage to do the dives though. > >> > >> Regards > >> John > >> > > > > John, I guess you did not read the web site. The fact is that all they > >did was stage a continuous cluster while setting a piss poor example and > >making it clear why there ar so many accidents in this sport. > > > > How about you explain to us why what they are doing makes any sense, > >since they clearly can not. Let's start with bragging about deep air > >diving on the web site, and then lets move on to ponied oxygen behind > >the back????? > > > > Do the dives? Don't make me laugh. > > > > > > > > The fact is any idiot can do what you are calling "dives", most of the > >time, and all of you prove that every day. You a > > > > > > > > john thornton web page http://www.scapaflow.com > > iantd trimix instructor, skipper/owner "Karin" > inspiration instructor > > polrudden house tel.01856 874761 > peerie sea loan fax 01856 870950 > kirkwall > orkney kw15 1uh -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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