tod, you have no business badmouthiung an organization whose "research"
means others do not have to have near misses or "hits" - what have you
or any of the other complainers done for us lately?

the fact is , know-it-all, the WKPP has amassed man dive hours in
extreme diving in the order of the tens of thousands. the fact is that
Naval Warfare comes to our dives to study our techniques. the fact is
yoi have crossed the line from just being a pain in the ass to joining
th eranks of the outrights assholes who can not accept the fact that a
track record beats the shit our of a big mouth, supposition, assumption,
or bullshit. we have the track record, and i wil not let you or anyone
else ever forget it. do what we do and then tell us about safety

our track reocrd is why the WKPP can dive anywhere anytime anyhow with
no questionsn asked. that is why we have the permits eveywhere, and why
Jablosnki can go do the Britannic like you would go out snokelling on
the local dive boat.

Jess Armantrout wrote:
> 
> Well, Tod, congratulations.  You have won the award for most stupid post of
> the month.  And it has been a month of stupid posts.
> 
> NASA has hits and near misses.  Does that mean they are not safe?
> 
> DuPont has the most stringent safety protocols in industry, far above what
> OSHA requires, yet they have hits and near misses.  Does this mean they are
> not safe?
> 
> Lexus puts every new safety feature that comes out into their cars, yet they
> still have hits and near misses.  Does this mean that they are not safe?
> 
> The WKPP is doing the highest volume of potentially high risk diving in the
> world and they occasionally have hits and near misses.  That they do not
> have several orders of magnitude more is a testiment to just how safe they
> are.
> 
> As I have told several other big mouth, know it alls, come on down to the
> big pond and see how it is done.  Then you can tell the world about unsafe
> the WKPP is.  Until then, please sit quietly behind your keyboard with the
> rest of the cyber divers.
> 
> Trout
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tgunther@co*.co* <tgunther@co*.co*>
> To: H2Ocaver <ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*>
> Cc: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>; Joel Silverstein
> <joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*>; scuba@md*.co* <scuba@md*.co*>;
> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; vbtech@ci*.co*
> <vbtech@ci*.co*>; kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>;
> bdi@wh*.ne* <bdi@wh*.ne*>
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:40 AM
> Subject: Re: A broken clock is right twice a day
> 
> >H2O:
> >
> >Fortunately, the sentiments you express are not held by a great percentage
> >divers outside the small sub-culture originating in Florida.     I
> personally
> >know of DCS hits among the WKPP proper, and I  know of more than a couple
> close
> >calls experienced by the members of the team.    Having said that, that the
> WKPP
> >would posture itself as the high-emporer of what is safe and what is not
> safe
> >among divers seems, well, to be more than a little disingenuous.
> >
> >Tod
> >
> >
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