You really have absolutely no idea what has been going on in the past 3 
or 4 years do you? I have no doubt in my mind that TDI and IANTD would be 
doing things in the "old way" to this very day if they had not been 
battered and abused in public and private on how the "old way" is the 
wrong way.

The diving industry is full of the most pig-headed, self-indulgent, 
fixed-in-their-ways bunch of muleheaded egomaniacs that I have ever seen 
in my life. I suspect the biggest force for change will be from the 
insurance companies. They simply won't be willing to insure the industry 
if the death toll and bad press remains as high as it is. The insurance 
industry takes note of the fact that there are methodologies out there 
that are proven as being better than the "old way" through cold, hard 
statistical facts.

IANTD and TDI are desperate to get their costs down, and if this means 
training divers so they won't go out and die, well then they have to bite 
the bullet and do what it takes. Any bone-head can see that.

 Jim

Sender: tgunther@co*.co*  Date: 8/26/99 9:25 AM

><<  Actauly, TDI (Gilliam) and (IANTD)Mount have both radically changed
their
>standards in the last couple of years since the heat has been on them  >>
>
>If we were to ask Tom though (whom I know is reading) why this has occured,
>would he say it was because of the persuasiveness of your arguments or 
>because
>of the insulting tone in which they were delivered?   Again, I do NOT want to
>get into a debate over your delivery method (that's your business), but I 
>would
>bet if Tom piped in he would say any change he has made that can be 
>directly be
>attributed to you has come more from the succienctness of your logic, than it
>has been the insulting tone they have been given in.    If you want to 
>know why
>"someone does not get it" I would challenge you with the same question in 
>this
>area.
>
>Tod
>
>
>
>
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