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kirvine wrote:
>Billy, we all know full well that the very fist post by Grant tells
>exactly what organization he represents. The only one who reacted so
>violently to my bullseye on Rob Palmer's deep air demise.
Sorry, wrong Guess, care for another go ?
>
>The part that Grant does not get is that when atrocities of
>irresponsible stupidity are performed by divers in the spotlight,
>whether they be high profile like Palmer deep air diving, local legends
>like the trash collectors in New England exercising dangerous stupidity
>, dive boat captains without the guts to enforce any common sense on
>their boats , boat crews who know it all, instructors ( an oxymoron in
>most cases) , or others in a position to influence diver behavior ,
And you *think* that by ranting and insulting them, your gonna make a
difference?, the only way to change these people is to educate them, and as
ive said before, your in the perfect position to to that.
>somebody with the creditials to back up their case needs to step up and
>point out how freaking stupid all of this is.
Again I agree, but people will listen to a mature argument a lot more
than a childish rant, full of insults
>I'll take that job, since I have the credentials that none of these
>strokes can argue with
As ive said before, no argument on that one, its the way in which you
chose to deliver it
, I could care less what they think of me, they do
>not need to be my friends or pals, I am not in the business, have
>nothing to gain or lose from them, and will not back down from any of
>these jerks, as evidenced by their very best efforts to attack me on
>every front.
Wow, paranoid or what. But as the *inventor* of dir then, you are *in
the business*, people look to you for answers, not insults.
>Right is right, and these guys are wrong, and the Grants out there start
>out thinking they are right
As I know diddly, about dir, I have never claimed to, but I do know how
to make people listen to an argument, and how to spread information.
> and well supporting in public opinion due to
>the crap they are fed by the practicing strokes ,and then try to slither
>out of the spotlight of abject stupidity as the truth dawns on them.
There's no slithering here, you seem to be getting the dir concept
(which I agree with), and the way in which you spread the message mixed up,
two totally different arguments.
>The fact is that my willingness to put it on the line is what has made
>the changes happen.
So don't waste it..........
Grant
>
>
>bdi@wh*.ne* wrote:
>>
>> Grant Jones wrote:
>>
>> >> I joined this list to find out about dir and other
>> >> technical stuff...
>>
>> >> If I want a *show*, then Id go to the circus, I thought
>> >> I might learn a bit about diving on this list...
>>
>> >> Thats the whole reason I signed on to this list, to learn...
>>
>> Who are you kidding, Grant? Your very first post to the
>> list was a big rave about manners:
>>
>> ">> You are a very sad and sick little man, people die and all
>> >> you can do is crow over the fact that it didn't happen to
>> >> your little gang - and yet people look up to you (it could
>> >> only happen in the states, I suppose), surly you should be
>> >> setting some sort of standard instead...
>> >>
>> >> Grant"
>>
>> Then you got into a stoush with Lawrence who pointed out
>> your opinions don't represent the majority of English
>> divers:
>>
>> ">> Do they give you lessons in name calling, or do you get a
>> >> little book with it all wrote down in? or is it to impress
>> >> kivine? (I noticed you Cc this to him)?"
>>
>> And you haven't stopped pissing and moaning since.
>>
>> Grant, far from trying to "find out about DIR" and "learn
>> about diving" , you've actually been trying to prevent
>> others from doing just that.
>>
>> You, are, by the evidence of your own words, full of shit,
>> son. That's a dangerous trait in an instructor.
>>
>> Which organisation accredited you? They now need to issue
>> a warning.
>>
>> rgds billyw
>>
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