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Subject: Re: Petting the Air Pony: was Re: Doria Deaths
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:08:22 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
cc: "Alton Hall, Jr." <ahall@da*.co*>, "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>,
     "Mike Rodriguez" ,
     "Joel Silverstein" ,
     "Tech Diver"
Trained by a lawyer dive instructor? This makes your Wakulla dives even 
more amazing...

 Jim

Sender: kirvine@sa*.ne*  Date: 8/18/99 6:10 AM

>Jim, Alton was my cavern instructor. I am thinking about suing him for
>getting me into this in the first place. He ws in law school at LSU at
>the time.
>
>Jim Cobb wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that's right, you guys are in Louisiana, so you guys must wear
>> seersucker suits.
>> 
>> So, Alton, I have heard of one case where a the family of the deseased
>> sued the "buddy" and won a pile of dough, how many do you know of or have
>> participated in?
>> 
>>    Jim
>> 
>> Sender: Alton Hall, Jr.  Date: 8/17/99 9:28 PM
>> 
>> >Hi Jim:
>> >
>> >I do not think we have had the pleasure of meeting. However I can assure
>> >you that
>> >I do not own a shark skin suit. Alton
>> >
>> >http://www.divelawyer.com/
>> >
>> >Jim Cobb wrote:
>> >
>> >> Art, I think the odd thing about the diver in question was that he was in
>> >> good shape, an experienced diver, so why did he die?
>> >>
>> >> While so much is known about this fatality (certainly much more than the
>> >> usual Doria death thanks to some people who were there not following the
>> >> tech diver "code of silence"), nothing is known about the moment of his
>> >> demise.
>> >>
>> >> This is leading to much speculation as to what is the "smoking gun", what
>> >> was the main factor(s) that killed him. IMHO the two suspects are:
>> >>
>> >> 1. He made a judgement error, he did not rest to offgas the CO2 in his
>> >> system after greatly exerting himself, and he did not avoid exerting
>> >> himself in the first place.
>> >>
>> >> 2. His high-drag "old timer" gear configuration is what lead him to
>> >> getting winded in the first place, compounded with no real buddy plan.
>> >> When you call a dive in a real buddy situation the buddy(s) should have
>> >> called the dive as well.
>> >>
>> >> As JT has said it behooves you divers out there to make it crystal clear
>> >> that you are a solo diver and responsible for no one when you jump in.
>> >>
>> >> Or you people are going to have to learn to use a "real" buddy teams with
>> >> clear, active, effective and practiced buddy plans and actions, which
>> >> makes tech dives more survivable, with out a doubt.
>> >>
>> >> If you divers out there keep doing this "same ocean" buddy stuff then you
>> >> will, one day, have Alton Hall or one of his shark-skin suited cohorts
>> >> knocking on your door with a lawsuit blaming you for your "same ocean"
>> >> buddy's death.
>> >>
>> >>    Jim
>> >>
>> >> Sender: Paltz, Art  Date: 8/17/99 10:14 AM
>> >>
>> >> >Gotta jump in here.  I have been following this thread with great 
>interest
>> >> >cause I know the people involved.  I have not heard anyone who was there
>> say
>> >> >he was breathing the air tank as a travel mix.  This is just another
>> example
>> >> >of people assuming and making statements to further the cause or just 
>jump
>> >> >in the band wagon.  Is using air as a travel mix stupid when you've got 
a
>> >> >17% back mix?  Yes it is.  Was it used, I think not!
>> >> >
>> >> >Art.
>> >>
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