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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:58:52 -0500
From: "Alton Hall, Jr." <ahall@da*.co*>
To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
CC: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>,
     Mike Rodriguez ,
     Joel Silverstein ,
     Tech Diver
Subject: Re: Petting the Air Pony: was Re: Doria Deaths
Hi George:

If you do sue me I will do the same to you for slander. :) I went to Tulane law
school. Alton

kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:

> Jim, Alton was my cavern instructor. I am thinking about suing him for
> getting me into this in the first place. He ws in law school at LSU at
> the time.
>
> Jim Cobb wrote:
> >
> > Oh, that's right, you guys are in Louisiana, so you guys must wear
> > seersucker suits.
> >
> > So, Alton, I have heard of one case where a the family of the deseased
> > sued the "buddy" and won a pile of dough, how many do you know of or have
> > participated in?
> >
> >    Jim
> >
> > Sender: Alton Hall, Jr.  Date: 8/17/99 9:28 PM
> >
> > >Hi Jim:
> > >
> > >I do not think we have had the pleasure of meeting. However I can assure
> > >you that
> > >I do not own a shark skin suit. Alton
> > >
> > >http://www.divelawyer.com/
> > >
> > >Jim Cobb wrote:
> > >
> > >> Art, I think the odd thing about the diver in question was that he was in
> > >> good shape, an experienced diver, so why did he die?
> > >>
> > >> While so much is known about this fatality (certainly much more than the
> > >> usual Doria death thanks to some people who were there not following the
> > >> tech diver "code of silence"), nothing is known about the moment of his
> > >> demise.
> > >>
> > >> This is leading to much speculation as to what is the "smoking gun", what
> > >> was the main factor(s) that killed him. IMHO the two suspects are:
> > >>
> > >> 1. He made a judgement error, he did not rest to offgas the CO2 in his
> > >> system after greatly exerting himself, and he did not avoid exerting
> > >> himself in the first place.
> > >>
> > >> 2. His high-drag "old timer" gear configuration is what lead him to
> > >> getting winded in the first place, compounded with no real buddy plan.
> > >> When you call a dive in a real buddy situation the buddy(s) should have
> > >> called the dive as well.
> > >>
> > >> As JT has said it behooves you divers out there to make it crystal clear
> > >> that you are a solo diver and responsible for no one when you jump in.
> > >>
> > >> Or you people are going to have to learn to use a "real" buddy teams with
> > >> clear, active, effective and practiced buddy plans and actions, which
> > >> makes tech dives more survivable, with out a doubt.
> > >>
> > >> If you divers out there keep doing this "same ocean" buddy stuff then you
> > >> will, one day, have Alton Hall or one of his shark-skin suited cohorts
> > >> knocking on your door with a lawsuit blaming you for your "same ocean"
> > >> buddy's death.
> > >>
> > >>    Jim
> > >>
> > >> Sender: Paltz, Art  Date: 8/17/99 10:14 AM
> > >>
> > >> >Gotta jump in here.  I have been following this thread with great
interest
> > >> >cause I know the people involved.  I have not heard anyone who was there
> > say
> > >> >he was breathing the air tank as a travel mix.  This is just another
> > example
> > >> >of people assuming and making statements to further the cause or just
jump
> > >> >in the band wagon.  Is using air as a travel mix stupid when you've got
a
> > >> >17% back mix?  Yes it is.  Was it used, I think not!
> > >> >
> > >> >Art.
> > >>
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