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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:09:42 -0400
From: "Bruce Graham" <Grahabr@LA*.WH*.CO*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Petting the Air Pony: was Re: Doria Deaths
I know of a case where the family of a deceased sued the buddy and LOST.  =
At least as of now, in California  by participating in scuba diving you =
are assuming the risk.


Bruce Graham
213/620-7776
grahabr@la*.wh*.co*

Now I guess I'll have to tell 'em
That I got no cerebellum

>>> Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> 08/17/99 06:34PM >>>
Oh, that's right, you guys are in Louisiana, so you guys must wear=20
seersucker suits.

So, Alton, I have heard of one case where a the family of the deseased=20
sued the "buddy" and won a pile of dough, how many do you know of or =
have=20
participated in?

   Jim

Sender: Alton Hall, Jr.  Date: 8/17/99 9:28 PM

>Hi Jim:
>
>I do not think we have had the pleasure of meeting. However I can =
assure=20
>you that
>I do not own a shark skin suit. Alton
>
>http://www.divelawyer.com/=20
>
>Jim Cobb wrote:
>
>> Art, I think the odd thing about the diver in question was that he was =
in
>> good shape, an experienced diver, so why did he die?
>>
>> While so much is known about this fatality (certainly much more than =
the
>> usual Doria death thanks to some people who were there not following =
the
>> tech diver "code of silence"), nothing is known about the moment of his
>> demise.
>>
>> This is leading to much speculation as to what is the "smoking gun", =
what
>> was the main factor(s) that killed him. IMHO the two suspects are:
>>
>> 1. He made a judgement error, he did not rest to offgas the CO2 in his
>> system after greatly exerting himself, and he did not avoid exerting
>> himself in the first place.
>>
>> 2. His high-drag "old timer" gear configuration is what lead him to
>> getting winded in the first place, compounded with no real buddy plan.
>> When you call a dive in a real buddy situation the buddy(s) should have
>> called the dive as well.
>>
>> As JT has said it behooves you divers out there to make it crystal =
clear
>> that you are a solo diver and responsible for no one when you jump in.
>>
>> Or you people are going to have to learn to use a "real" buddy teams =
with
>> clear, active, effective and practiced buddy plans and actions, which
>> makes tech dives more survivable, with out a doubt.
>>
>> If you divers out there keep doing this "same ocean" buddy stuff then =
you
>> will, one day, have Alton Hall or one of his shark-skin suited cohorts
>> knocking on your door with a lawsuit blaming you for your "same ocean"
>> buddy's death.
>>
>>    Jim
>>
>> Sender: Paltz, Art  Date: 8/17/99 10:14 AM
>>
>> >Gotta jump in here.  I have been following this thread with great =
interest
>> >cause I know the people involved.  I have not heard anyone who was =
there=20
say
>> >he was breathing the air tank as a travel mix.  This is just another=20=

example
>> >of people assuming and making statements to further the cause or just =
jump
>> >in the band wagon.  Is using air as a travel mix stupid when you've =
got a
>> >17% back mix?  Yes it is.  Was it used, I think not!
>> >
>> >Art.
>>
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