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From: "Taylor, John" <john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Doria Deaths - Let's dive some air
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:05:44 +0900
George,

Interesting point on "travel gas". Please expand on this,

Regards,

jt
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	kirvine@sa*.ne* [SMTP:kirvine@sa*.ne*]
> Sent:	Friday, July 16, 1999 11:32 PM
> To:	techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Cc:	wwm@sa*.ne*
> Subject:	Doria Deaths - Let's dive some air
> 
> JT, et al, let's get back to your recent Doria recovery. You all keep
> skipping the fact that this guy had an air bottle ponied between his
> doubles. Forgetting that this is too stupid for anyone but Christina
> Young, who has this cluster on her web site in living color, maybe we
> need to look a litle closer at just how this probably came into play.
> 
>   The guy was diving mix, right? Well, I have noticed that the farm
> animals tend to tell people to use a "travel gas" from the surface,
> rather than just drop down. Is there a chance that our boy did this with
> his air pony and then effectively was diving air at depth when he had
> his "problem"? Even when you switch to mix, it takes a couple of minutes
> to take effect, meaning that even if he switched back before he hit
> depth, he was still being effected. If one really has to do this, one
> needs to do it with another trimix,and then hold position for two
> minutes before continuing the decent, but that still should not be
> ponied between the back tanks with the regs everywhere.
> 
>   Come on JT, what do you think? I realize that this is so stupid as to
> be criminal, but I think it happened.  How much gas ( air ) was left in
> the pony, guys? Can you tell us that?
> 
>   By the way, the concept of a pony is a vestigal throwback to the days
> of single port manifolds, where a pony was indeed a necessity. However,
> as of about 1971, when the Benjamin ( dual port) manifold was created,
> this became nonsense, and become totally useless when the isolator was
> added to the dual port manifold. Only the worst boat monkee fails to
> understand this.
> 
>   Then to put air in the pony is too much. Then to not know what
> happened, and to report the accident while leaving out the most
> important information, is why you guys keep having accidents. 
> 
>   JT, are we going to stick with the bullshit, or are we going to start
> learning something. Your call - make your move, tell us what really
> happened. Where was the pony reg ( and what as the reg config) when you
> recoved the body, and how much gas (air) was left in the pony?
> 
> 
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