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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:08:49 -0700
To: "Taylor, John" <john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*>
From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
Subject: RE: Doria Deaths - Let's dive some air
Cc: techdiver@Aquanaut.com
If i might....

because:
a) mixes used even in the 300fsw-400fsw aren't hypoxic at 20fsw.
b) bounce diving only incurs a minute or two between 0-20fsw
c) no significant decompression or oxygen dose benefit is derived from 
travelling while bounce diving
d) travelling unnecessarily complicates the dive at the beginning

you should:
just go down on back gas

oh, and this information wouldn't be complete  without:
e) only card carrying FAS deep air diving butt mounting strokes would 
travel on a bounce dive

At AM 8/17/1999 +0900, "Taylor, John" <john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk*>wrote:
>George,
>
>Interesting point on "travel gas". Please expand on this,
>
>Regards,
>
>jt
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kirvine@sa*.ne* [SMTP:kirvine@sa*.ne*]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 11:32 PM
> > To:   techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Cc:   wwm@sa*.ne*
> > Subject:      Doria Deaths - Let's dive some air
> >
> > JT, et al, let's get back to your recent Doria recovery. You all keep
> > skipping the fact that this guy had an air bottle ponied between his
> > doubles. Forgetting that this is too stupid for anyone but Christina
> > Young, who has this cluster on her web site in living color, maybe we
> > need to look a litle closer at just how this probably came into play.
> >
> >   The guy was diving mix, right? Well, I have noticed that the farm
> > animals tend to tell people to use a "travel gas" from the surface,
> > rather than just drop down. Is there a chance that our boy did this with
> > his air pony and then effectively was diving air at depth when he had
> > his "problem"? Even when you switch to mix, it takes a couple of minutes
> > to take effect, meaning that even if he switched back before he hit
> > depth, he was still being effected. If one really has to do this, one
> > needs to do it with another trimix,and then hold position for two
> > minutes before continuing the decent, but that still should not be
> > ponied between the back tanks with the regs everywhere.
> >
> >   Come on JT, what do you think? I realize that this is so stupid as to
> > be criminal, but I think it happened.  How much gas ( air ) was left in
> > the pony, guys? Can you tell us that?
> >
> >   By the way, the concept of a pony is a vestigal throwback to the days
> > of single port manifolds, where a pony was indeed a necessity. However,
> > as of about 1971, when the Benjamin ( dual port) manifold was created,
> > this became nonsense, and become totally useless when the isolator was
> > added to the dual port manifold. Only the worst boat monkee fails to
> > understand this.
> >
> >   Then to put air in the pony is too much. Then to not know what
> > happened, and to report the accident while leaving out the most
> > important information, is why you guys keep having accidents.
> >
> >   JT, are we going to stick with the bullshit, or are we going to start
> > learning something. Your call - make your move, tell us what really
> > happened. Where was the pony reg ( and what as the reg config) when you
> > recoved the body, and how much gas (air) was left in the pony?
> >
> >
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