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I think it is you sir, who is missing the point:

About 10 years ago the military was obligatory in Holland. Wether there was war
or
not, wether you wanted or not, as soon as you reached the age of 18 you had to
go.
So I went and they taught me how to shoot up tanks.
We used to have instructors, seargents, captains etc. up to generals.

THEY ALL STARTED TO SHOUT, GOT CINICAL AND MAYBE EVEN SAID THINGS I DID NOT LIKE
WHEN IT WAS ABOUT GETTING KILLED OUT OF STUPIDITY!!!!

I served 18 months. In those 18 months at least 10 guys got killed. They shot
themselves while cleaning their gun. Or got shot by their buddy who was cleaning
his. Got run over by tanks while sleeping in the open field, blew themselves up
(and others) with grenades, shot at wrong vehicles with TOW missiles and I bet a
lot more happened. For the military its just numbers, its inevitable that a few
of
us will get killed and thats not even KIA but KOOS (Killed Out Of Stupidity)

I'm still alive because I LISTENED to the people who knew.

Now lets take diving, something we all do voluntary:
Lets listen to the people who know and we might survive another dive.

As far as the message of GUE, the WKPP and Mr. Irvine concers, it  is getting
out
alright....

kind regards
Robbert van der Gon Netscher



tgunther@co*.co* wrote:

> Dan:
>
> I think you missed the point of John's reference to the Seals.    His was not
> lamenting the WKPP's use of procedures, as these are highly respected by most
of
> us here.    That was not the point.   What John was calling to task was the
> particular insensitive and insolent manner in which these views are expressed
to
> the technical community;  specifically though the Directorship of the WKPP.
> I don't know what experience you have had with the military, but behavior like
> that among the executive staff would not be tolerated.   It shows a low regard
> for others, an extreme lack of professional decorum, and inappropriate level
> heightened belief in oneself.    Individuals like this would either be
> administratively discharged, or meet before a board of court-martial.    One
may
> have all the ribbons and decorations one desires, but if they fail to act in a
> manner respective of their rank and position, the military has no use for
them.
>
> Tod
>
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