I don't alwaays agree with the DIR approach but the results are
indisputable. If you want a safe way to carry out a project then I'd look
no further than that. It's a system based on experience rather than opinion
and it works, just check the archives. And yes, I am in the UK too, but I
used to live on Martha's Vineyard which is virtually next door to the
Andrea Doria -- and I never saw a summer where no-one died on her.

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> From: Lawrence Orchard-London <lorchard@Ru*.co*>
> To: 'Grant Jones' <grant@ow*.fr*.co*.uk*>
> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; kirvine@sa*.ne*
> Subject: RE: Doria Count?
> Date: Wednesday, 4 August 1999 9:19
> 
> Grant
> 
> You are not talking for any significant portion of divers in Britain.
> 
> Take a look around you outside of your own small group of narcosed
> neanderthals and you will see the DIR approach taking off all over the
place
> in the UK Diving scene. This would not be the case if George et al's
> comments where merely a source of amusement.
> 
> As for standards, I cant think of any organisation who has implemented
more
> workable standards as opposed to those that dont work like, IANTD
cylinder
> marking, than the WKPP & GUE.
> 
> Anyway as George said, he will be over here in a month, should be
> interesting to hear the two of you debate such topics, given the
> opportunity.
> 
> Loz
> mailto:lorchard@ru*.co*
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Jones [mailto:grant@ow*.fr*.co*.uk*]
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 12:15 AM
> To: techdiver; kirvine@sa*.ne*
> Subject: Re: Doria Count?
> 
> 
> Sad kirvine wrote:
> 
> 
> >I'll be over there in a month if you want to take it up in person.
> 
>     Thats some thing I shall look forward to, with the greatest of
pleasures
> 
> >> Sad Person kirvine wrote:
> >>
> >> >  I have not heard from any of the big mouths up there lately about
ho
> >> >they are so right and we are so wrong.>
> >>    Anybody want to get out the track records and do a little
comparing?
> >> >How about we start with your philosophy of how this should be done vs
> ours.
> >> Who wants to kick this one off?
> >>
> >> >   First, let's get the body count right and we will go from there.
> >>
> >>     You are a very sad and sick little man, people die and all you can
do
> is
> >> crow over the fact that it didn't happen to your little gang - and yet
> >> people look up to you (it could only happen in the states, I suppose),
> surly
> >> you should be setting some sort of standard instead.
> >>
> >>     Over here, in Britain, your petty out bursts and even pettier name
> >> calling (not to mention all those big swear words) keeps us amused for
> many
> >> hours.
> >>
> >>     Grant
> >
> >
> >
> 
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