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From: "Grant Jones" <grant@ow*.fr*.co*.uk*>
To: "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     "Lawrence Orchard-London"
Subject: Re: Doria Count?
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:39:59 +0100
lawrence wrote:

>You are not talking for any significant portion of divers in Britain.

    Just ask around your club or what ever you belong to.....

>Take a look around you outside of your own small group of narcosed
>neanderthals

    Do they give you lessons in name calling, or do you get a little book
with it all wrote down in?  or is it to impress kivine? (I noticed you Cc
this to him)?

> and you will see the DIR approach taking off all over the place
>in the UK Diving scene. This would not be the case if George et al's
>comments where merely a source of amusement.

    I dont remember slagging his system, just the bloke

>As for standards, I cant think of any organisation who has implemented more
>workable standards as opposed to those that dont work like, IANTD cylinder
>marking, than the WKPP & GUE.

    Re read the post, it was about HIS standard, he could benifit the diving
scene a lot better, instead of crowing when some one dies or has an accident

>Anyway as George said, he will be over here in a month, should be
>interesting to hear the two of you debate such topics, given the
>opportunity.

    As I said I'm here

        Grant





Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 12:15 AM
>To: techdiver; kirvine@sa*.ne*
>Subject: Re: Doria Count?
>
>
>Sad kirvine wrote:
>
>
>>I'll be over there in a month if you want to take it up in person.
>
>    Thats some thing I shall look forward to, with the greatest of
pleasures
>
>>> Sad Person kirvine wrote:
>>>
>>> >  I have not heard from any of the big mouths up there lately about ho
>>> >they are so right and we are so wrong.>
>>>    Anybody want to get out the track records and do a little comparing?
>>> >How about we start with your philosophy of how this should be done vs
>ours.
>>> Who wants to kick this one off?
>>>
>>> >   First, let's get the body count right and we will go from there.
>>>
>>>     You are a very sad and sick little man, people die and all you can
do
>is
>>> crow over the fact that it didn't happen to your little gang - and yet
>>> people look up to you (it could only happen in the states, I suppose),
>surly
>>> you should be setting some sort of standard instead.
>>>
>>>     Over here, in Britain, your petty out bursts and even pettier name
>>> calling (not to mention all those big swear words) keeps us amused for
>many
>>> hours.
>>>
>>>     Grant
>>
>>
>>
>
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