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From: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>, <toddl@in*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Deco not working? Could be the gas....is "trimix" worthless?
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:24:20 -0400
George,

Michael Waldbrenner posted the references some time back.  Here they are
FYI.

>
> Taylor WF, Chen S, Barshtein G, Hyde DE, Yedgar S.
> Enhanced aggregability of human red blood cells by diving.
> Undersea Hyper Med 1998; 25(3)167-170.
>
> Some other references cited by the above paper are:
>
> Stolz JF, Donner M.  Hemorheology: importance of
> erythrocyte aggregation.  Clin. Hemorheology 1987; 7:3-9.
>
> Knisely MH, Bloch EH, Eliot TS, Warner L.  Sludge blood.
> Science 1947; 106:431-440.
>
> Chen S, Gavish B, Barhstein G, Mahler Y, Yedgar S.
> Red blood cell aggregability is enhanced by physiological
> levels of hydrostatic pressure.  Biochim Biophys Acta 1994;
> 1192:247-252.
>
> Polkinghorne PJ, Bird AC, Cross MR.  Retinal vessel
> constriction under hyperbaric conditions.  Lancet 1989;
> 2(8671):1099.
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: toddl@in*.co* <toddl@in*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Deco not working? Could be the gas....is "trimix" worthless?


>Todd, this is important information - see if you can get it for
>everyone. I lost my info on this years ago. I think Richie Pyle refound
>it, however, but anything you can get would be appreciated by all.
>
>What I had was a British video tape showing the effect . It was a
>commercial diving training video for North Sea oil operations, I think,
>and it was somebody trying to get me to stop diving air ( 12 years ago
>).
>
>toddl@in*.co* wrote:
>>
>> did you ever get solid info on the RBC "rigidity" effect you
>> mentioned some time back in a couple of forums?  i met an
>> anesthesiologist on a recent liveaboard trip, asked if he'd
>> ever heard of anything like that, and he said "sure" and
>> described how nitrogen would form weak ionic bonds on the
>> convex side of the RBCs, impairing flexibility.  i don't
>> know enough about it to have a sense of whether this is
>> right, but his description seemed plausible and he seemed
>> fairly confident about it.  he said he thought he could find
>> references for me.  i'll probably see him this weekend.  if
>> you still need/want info i'll try to push him a bit harder.
>>
>> - todd
>
>
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