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Bill, these will end up biting the deep air morons in the ass along with no PFO tests for deep gas diving. Ignorance is no excuse: if it was so obvious to us, why is it fought so hard by the rest? Bill Mee wrote: > > George, > > Michael Waldbrenner posted the references some time back. Here they are > FYI. > > > > > Taylor WF, Chen S, Barshtein G, Hyde DE, Yedgar S. > > Enhanced aggregability of human red blood cells by diving. > > Undersea Hyper Med 1998; 25(3)167-170. > > > > Some other references cited by the above paper are: > > > > Stolz JF, Donner M. Hemorheology: importance of > > erythrocyte aggregation. Clin. Hemorheology 1987; 7:3-9. > > > > Knisely MH, Bloch EH, Eliot TS, Warner L. Sludge blood. > > Science 1947; 106:431-440. > > > > Chen S, Gavish B, Barhstein G, Mahler Y, Yedgar S. > > Red blood cell aggregability is enhanced by physiological > > levels of hydrostatic pressure. Biochim Biophys Acta 1994; > > 1192:247-252. > > > > Polkinghorne PJ, Bird AC, Cross MR. Retinal vessel > > constriction under hyperbaric conditions. Lancet 1989; > > 2(8671):1099. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Katherine Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*> > To: toddl@in*.co* <toddl@in*.co*> > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: Deco not working? Could be the gas....is "trimix" worthless? > > >Todd, this is important information - see if you can get it for > >everyone. I lost my info on this years ago. I think Richie Pyle refound > >it, however, but anything you can get would be appreciated by all. > > > >What I had was a British video tape showing the effect . It was a > >commercial diving training video for North Sea oil operations, I think, > >and it was somebody trying to get me to stop diving air ( 12 years ago > >). > > > >toddl@in*.co* wrote: > >> > >> did you ever get solid info on the RBC "rigidity" effect you > >> mentioned some time back in a couple of forums? i met an > >> anesthesiologist on a recent liveaboard trip, asked if he'd > >> ever heard of anything like that, and he said "sure" and > >> described how nitrogen would form weak ionic bonds on the > >> convex side of the RBCs, impairing flexibility. i don't > >> know enough about it to have a sense of whether this is > >> right, but his description seemed plausible and he seemed > >> fairly confident about it. he said he thought he could find > >> references for me. i'll probably see him this weekend. if > >> you still need/want info i'll try to push him a bit harder. > >> > >> - todd > > > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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