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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:44:19 -0400
To: "Chris Werner" <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>
From: premier@ma*.ac*.ne* (susan m. innes)
Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Hogarthian
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Chris,

Do you take the DIR raft which comes with the DIR package from Halcyon in
the cave?? or do you MODIFY the rig for cave or do you deviate from the
published and advertised DIR gear and not take it with you in the cave or ocean?

For the record, DIR and George are responsible for teaching me alot and for
reconfiguring my gear as were many others.  Taking a second bottom timer in
the ocean which is unobtrusive and my decision since I'm the one going in
the water doesn't mean I don't subscribe to DIR philosophy just as those who
do not take their raft in the cave or ocean are not necessarily throwing
away ALL DIR philsophy. Just as those who used an extra belt buckle to hold
their cannister in place weren't strokes. They saw a need and addressed it
FOR THEM. If you don't want to take an extra bottom timer that's fine for
you.  I respect and understand your decision but I don't concur in it.

Naturally, you always want to be with your buddy, but my opinion is a self
rescue is the best rescue and I will plan to have a buddy and to manage a
self rescue, if possible.

susan





>Why would you ever keep changing gear config. to suit differing conditions?
>Go with what works in all environments. The fact that you think you are fine
>tuning DIR is ridiculous. Hogarth is not DIR, it was a stage in the
>evolution. Dive Hogarth (or what you think Hogarth is) for all I care. I'm
>telling you what works everywhere with no modifications. DIR works and has
>never been proven not to. It was developed in the ocean, refined in the
>cave, and put to use in the extreme environment of the Woodville Karst
>Plain. It works in extreme cold (Baltic Sea Tech Divers) and in warm water.
>If you were really analyzing the benefits you can only come to one
>conclusion: DIR WORKS.
>
>Chris
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <bigvon@be*.ne*>
>To: Chris Werner <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>
>Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 5:05 PM
>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Hogarthian
>
>
>> It is not a matter of old school or stubbornness.  it's analyzing benefits
>> versus risks
>> Again, no one seems to accept that someone can dive hogarthian and not
>accept
>> every single edict from the DIR most recent statement.  Is a seven foot
>hose
>> better than a five foot hose in the ocean if no penetration is involved
>and
>> light is not an issue?
>>
>> In fact if you look at the first DIR tape and the second, most recent one,
>> innovations were introduced such as "allowing" divers to use the extra
>belt
>> buckle to hold their canister in place.  Some divers were doing this
>before the
>> second video - were they 'stroke" before the video and "not stroke" after
>the
>> video.  Were they closed minded, old school before the video and not
>> afterwards?
>>
>> One can dive using a redundant bottom timer and still be hogarthian, have
>a
>> "good" diving attitude and an open mind.
>>
>> A bottom timer gives you depth and time in one compact unit.  Those of you
>> using extra casio watches do not have a back up depth device.
>>
>>
>> Chris Werner wrote:
>>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> > There is no difference. The difference is in your inability to realize
>that
>> > DIR works everywhere. The reason you can't get it is that you are old
>> > school, stubborn, and lack an open mind.
>> >
>> > Chris
>>
>
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