>If my bottom timer fails, I do not die. If my lights fail, the odds are >pretty good I die. In Wakulla, if just my primary fails AND I lose my >buddy, I probably die. > >Again, defend your position. Why do you need the 2nd depth gauge? Will you >die without it? Will you get bent without it? Again as I said if one is in a cave DIR is appropriate. Different ball game in the ocean. >Why is ocean different than cave? You obviously have never done any serious >cave. I feel much safer in the wide open ocean than in the confines of a >cave. And I will bet I have done more serious ocean dives than you have so >don't even go there. What is a serious cave? 285' for 4 hrs. I agree. But other than that are you saying multiple stage dives wherever are not??? I would like to take your bet with regard to serious ocean dives. I started in 1979 how about you? How many east coast dives? > >Jess > >-----Original Message----- >From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*> >To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*> >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:07 PM >Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth > > >> >>How do you reply to his argument about backup lights? >>I understand the DIR concept. I just believe that a backup BT does not >>violate the holgarthian system. An open ocean deco dive is a totally >>different from the protected recesses of a cave where I agree DIR makes >sense. >> >> >> >>>he has yet to offer a reason why he needs a second bottom timer that can >not >>>be accomplished with the gear I normally carry. >>> >>>Susan, you and he just don't get it. While this one piece of equipment >may >>>sound trivial to you, it is the attitude that is flawed. If you don't >need >>>it don't take it. >>> >>>Do you have a gas can sitting on the front seat of your car in case you >run >>>out? Then a fire extinguisher in case the gas catches fire? >>> >>>See what I'm saying? >>> >>>Trout >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*> >>>To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*> >>>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:31 PM >>>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth >>> >>> >>>>I think bigvon@be* already has well defended this topic. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>defend your way or find a flaw in mine. >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: susan m. innes <premier@ma*.ac*.ne*> >>>>>To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*> >>>>>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:22 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: Redundant Equipment and Holgarth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Who says what the better way is? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>One is a stroke when one hears of a better way of doing something and >>>>>insists on >>>>>>>doing it the old way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jess >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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