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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:50:44 -0700
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N <silent@cu*.ne*>
Subject: RE: Bondage wings???
Cc: <mikejsk@ga*.ne*>
Mike,

Check the archives under:

-oms wings
-bondage wings

You will find many "oms wings for sale" too...  :-)
If that says anything.

Basicly the following problems:
- hydrodynamics (not streamlined)
- restrictive bungees
- too much lift capacity (very large)
- usually dual bladder

Removing the bungees will leave you with very large wings, and all the crap
that used to hold the bungees. Also I presume you use an oms harness. Those
different from the DIR style too. Not one piece harness, many d-rings and a
quick release to name a few.
Using DIR style wings and harness leaves you with a much simpler, cleaner
solution. This is part of the beauty.
Ever seen Halcyon Explorer wings? These are really nice quality and made
with an eye for detail.

Regards,

THOMAS



At 10:04 AM 5/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Okay "chief" , the auto deflate may be a "joke".
>Can you outline the many problems. it seems as if any wings would serve as a
>hemmoroid cushion.
>Id rather dive my gear. Can you provide some constructive details or give a
>reference to a archives or a website that would outline the weaknesses in
>this system.
>
>In short I expect that the chief should be able to bash as well as convince
>me why I should change wings. The auto inflate can be cured by simply tuning
>the bands or removing them, this also takes care of the deflate at depth
>problem. I know maybe ten divers very well who are using this system with no
>problems. Not to mention the hundreds out there that are still in use.
>
>What are the main problems. What are the features of a good wing etc.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
>> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 8:40 AM
>> To: ajmurphy@sn*.ne*; techdiver mail
>> Subject: Re: Bondage wings???
>>
>>
>> As chief in charge of bashing Stuporwings, yes you have noticed one of
>> these POS many problems. "auto deflation" what a joke... Now get rid of
>> them while this "tech thing" is still hot, or you will wind up using them
>> as a hemmorid cushion on long car trips.
>>
>>  Jim
>>
>> Sender: A.J. Murphy  Date: 5/15/99 6:24 PM
>>
>> >O.K., I admit it. I dive northeast (USA) shipwrecks with a set of OMS
>> >95# bungee wings.  They seen to fit tight against my tanks and I have
>> >not gotten hung up in any tight penetrations like U-853 or the San
>> >Diego.  I like the feature of auto deflation that the bungees seem to be
>> >performing.  I will say this though.  I still felt too buoyant on my
>> >last two deco stops and have put on a total of 22 lb. of lead to over
>> >come this.  I have heard from divers (that I respect) that these wings
>> >actually trap some air.  And are impossible to orally inflate at depth.
>> >I was going to try it last weekend at 110 fsw, but I forgot. (narked?)
>> >Anyway, do you folks have any real data to support your disdain for this
>> >type of BCD?
>> >I came by them when I replaced my Zeagle Ranger in favor of a SS back
>> >plate and harness. I'm also using L.P. 85's, with manifold of course,
>> >and a neoprene dry suit.
>> >Nobody has called me a stroke to my face, but I have a thick skin and
>> >can handle it.  I'm just looking for info. here.
>> >Dive safe!
>> >
>> >A.J.
>> >
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