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From: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: ajmurphy@sn*.ne*,
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Subject: RE: Jersey ascent line ???
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:25:55 -0400
Contact Trader John.  He's got small SS ones with 250' of nylon line.
Problem with nylon line is that it doesn't rot away like sisal (SP?).
With 250' of nylon you can loop it around a bar or friendly piece of
wreckage.  You can then hold the spool and go up.  Basically you use
twice as much line but you can recover it and not litter the wreck.
Naturally in a real emergency you'd apologies to the environment and
just shoot the bag and tie it off and not worry about it.

As for rigging it.  The spool in question is only about 3 " thick so
fits nicely long wise mounted on the backplate.  I have mine rigged
using 2 nylon loops, one attached to a brass ring.  The spool has a
brass clip on the bottom.  I slide the top of the spool through the
upper loop and clip the lower one to the bottom of the reel.  Very easy
to deploy.  Just unclip it and it slides right out, 5 seconds to deploy.
Use nylon or cave line so you can cut it off in an emergency.

I've also seen people use surgical tubing where the end of the line
loops through the bottom tubing.  All you do is tug on the line and the
tubing slides off.  Also really quick deployment but I don't like having
the line exposed, too easy to get caught on something.

Hope this helps (let the flames begin)!
Art.


		-----Original Message-----
		From:	A.J. Murphy [mailto:ajmurphy@sn*.ne*]
		Sent:	Tuesday, May 11, 1999 10:08 PM
		To:	techdiver mail
		Subject:	Jersey ascent line ???

		Do any of you folks carry a "Jersey" emergency ascent
reel?  I made one
		out of a boom handle and the ends of a small plastic
spool that held
		electrical wire.  But I was never able to find a place
to secure it
		where I felt I would be able to actually reach it under
the stressful
		circumstances for which it is intended.  I mean come on,
I can't even
		reach my isolator valve without loosening my harness
belt and hiking up
		my tanks when wearing a 7 mm dry suit with
undergarments.  So I figured
		since I always carry a 50 lb. lift bag, to bring up what
I perceive to
		be treasures rescued from certain destruction by the
corrosive power of
		the sea.  And since I always, always, carry a wreck reel
with 250' of
		1/8" line, I felt that should suffice.
		Well, a couple of weekends ago I was out on the USS San
Diego. She is
		located about 12 miles south of Fire Island inlet, Long
Island, NY.  The
		seas were 5-6 feet with the occasional 8' swell. With
the first two
		divers already down on the wreck the boat broke the
mooring chain.  The
		captain waited for the divers to shoot their bags before
she maneuvered
		back over the wreck. The mate was then able to swim down
a grapple so
		that the rest of us could get our dive in. Anyway, when
it was time to
		leave, the crew retrieved the bags and I saw that they
were attached to
		wreck reel line.  I asked the two guys who deployed the
bags ( both of
		whom have many years of wreck diving experience) if they
had ever had to
		shoot a bag before.  They both said they had not. I then
asked a couple
		of other divers who had their Jersey reels mounted
between their tanks
		if they thought they would be able to deploy them given
the surge on the
		wreck at 110 fsw.  They said they hoped so but were in
the process of
		rethinking their set-up given the days events.
		So I guess what I want from you folks, is a discussion
or some insight
		on how best to rig an emergency ascent line for the open
ocean. I
		realize cave diving is different, however we wreckers
are open to your
		progressive ideas.
		Dive safe!

		A.J.

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