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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 04:04:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Kevin E. Harris" <keh1665@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: Cold Water Diving
To: "Sean M. Cary" <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>, "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>,
     velema@cu*.ne*
Cc: TECH LIST <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sean:

We all had a mentor who showed us the ropes early on.
As it is I'm moving in a Hogarthian direction today.

I have only just started diving doubles and YES in 35F
water I can reach my manifold and turn the valves.

My early influences used home made back plates and
home made Bungeed wings (1990).
I didn't (I'm not worthy attitude) mainly because I
was interested in bottom time, animal life, not depth.
I did go for the "latest and greatest" - YES the
ZEAGLE. Why you ask, dive shop owner gave it to me at
a KEY price so he could order enough stock to gain the
local dealer ship (1994). 5 years of diving (w/a
zeagle) and frustration- nothing fit together! I was
constantly re-organizing never satisfied.

"Divemastering" on a small charter boat I was busy
catering to new divers. The past couple of years my
interest was peaked as a few divers who had previously
boarded using a "traditional" BC, 80 AL and PONY for
the "deep" stuff had evolved with "new" gear and a
long hose wrapped around there neck.

I have searched out sources of info on alternative
dive equipment which to my surprise was getting back
to basics. Technology (new)does not equal TEC DIVER
(better) as I'm sure you would agree. Many pieces of
the DIR (Hogarthian) equipment are from the early
years in diving (fins/spring strap/neckless Back up
second/~harness/steel banded tanks/~manifold/metal
buckles)I'm sure I'm not telling anyone on this list
anything new (no positive). I just see an opportunity
to get my 2 cents in and maybe help make a difference
in a new generation of divers.

Granted technology, available materials and human
error have changed some of this (equipment) however
the basic concept still prevails - KISS!

You could influence your students by exposing them to
Hogarthian concept as it relates to entry level diving
(knowledge is power). Just don't do it by showing them
the DIR or DIR II tape - too harsh too early! Give new
divers the tools (knowledge) to fight the "DARK SIDE
of THE FORCE".

A mentor once told me: "The true predator of the DEEP
is the DIVE SHOP OWNER" and he was an owner!

Example: look at the old DACOR style back pack with a
small set of wings! Alternative to the "NORMAL BC" And
at least start a new generation earlier down the
simple is better path.

Early exposure in a non-technical environment may make
a difference. If nothing else it may keep an advancing
diver from asking the same old questions when they
jump into so called technical diving Arena.

http://www.divedacor.com/accessories.html
Single cylinder deluxe soft band - 6817-00

My .02 "Non-Tec diver exploring the ropes"

PS: I would say you can see no "strokery" in the
recreational community since being a stroke implies
knowledge of DIR correct!?
You may however see a lot of clutter and dangling!


--- "Sean M. Cary" <SMCARY@MI*.CO*> wrote:
> 99.9% of my regular customers will (thankfully)
> never Tech dive.  To sell
> them all backplates and harness's would be extreme. 
> I use and dive a
> Halcyon backplate and wing, wear a dangly and dive a
> long hose on every
> dive. Students and others see this and ask why I do
> it, and I explain that
> it is a carry over from my technical diving.  I have
> a ratio going of about
> 9 backplates to 1 bcd's sale...so I guess my wearing
> one is rubbing off.
> But I sell the customer whatever they want, based
> upon the type of diving
> they do.  Someone who will never venture past 60' is
> going to be fine in a
> normal BC.   In the early 90's when I was wearing a
> Dacor Caribbean and Al
> 80's, diving in warm, relatively shallow waters,
> that was the best setup for
> me.  Now that I do tech, I wear what I wear all the
> time, and never have to
> change my config to meet the requirements.  The
> whole point of my post was
> the nature of this list, and TheNerds comment that
> he doesn't have the cash
> to do the dives properly...
> 
> And as I said before...If you can't afford to do the
> dives with the right
> equipment...DON'T DO THEM.  All we have to do is
> apply Rule Number One...
> I'd say we have more to worry about in the so called
> "tech" community then
> the "rec" community.  I see far more strokery on the
> tech trips I go on,
> then the rec trips I do each weekend.
> 
> My .02
> 
> Sean















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