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Stuart Morrison sendte noget til mig den 20:31 20-04-99 som indeholdt=20 pr=E6cis . . . Is there anyone out there who is one hundred percent sure that in an emergency they can honestly say they would reach the valves EVERY SINGLE TIME? - Yes! I hear loads of rhetoric but not a lot of justification to your arguments. Have I just dared challenge the High Lords of the WKPP or is there a more practical reason why this method is flawed? - Your comment about the WKPP is so ridiculous that I won't comment on it.= =20 The reason we haven't commented in detail on all you wrote is that it has=20 ALL been said 1000 times before: check the archives! I'm assuming most of the hostility is coming from the US. - Billy is from Australia, I'm from Denmark. I haven't seen any Americans=20 answer? Both Aussie and the land of bacon is further from the US than your= =20 location, n'est-ce pas? That, I think, is the key. We are flawed beings, we do not always succeed, so why fool ourselves into thinking that we are invincible. Accept that sometimes things go wrong, sometimes we get more tired than we realise, sometimes we get more stressed than we expected. - All of these things can be remedied with training and more training. And= =20 if the dive is still too risky, apply option number 1 and don't dive! Heresy, blasphemy, I've got my long hose (which I breathe) on the left post. If the valves contact the roof going through a restriction then which knob could get turned off accidentally? The left one, which I'm breathing, which I notice, which I turn back on. Suppose I'm breathing off the right, my partner needs gas, grabs my reg, I switch over and get no gas. Or worse, he grabs the short hose and he gets no air. - What if your buddy is on the long hose and you go through a restriction,= =20 hit the ceiling closing the valve. You buddy cannot signal you and - damn -= =20 he's dead? YOU know if there is gas - or you can remedy it - you buddy=20 cannot. This is really scary: 'screw my buddy, _I_ need gas!' What kind of imbecile would put the contents gauge on a different regulator from the one being breathed in a manifolded rig. Once more, mistakes get made. For example, a manifolded diver jumps in the water, swims into a cave then realises the needle on his gauge hasn't moved in the last fifteen minutes because he forgot to check that the isolator was open. He could go on forever, calmly thinking he had the lowest RMV on the planet. It's shear stupidity, but it happens. If the gauge is on the reg he is breathing from then all that will happen is that he will hit thirds in half the time he would expect. - I cannot comment on THIS one - the rest of the list can probably tell=20 I've given up... sigh. I'm not knocking the originators of the Hogarthian rig, I'm knocking the disciples and WKPP wannabees who blindly do without thinking and cannot tolerate being questioned. - Bollocks! WE have listened for a couple of years, tried the stuff out and= =20 learnt it WORKS! What about you trying it out? Everyone who can achieve perfect performance every time gets my respect, I am simply a humble, flawed diver with a deep-seated fear of not being able to breathe. In later years I'll pray for forgiveness for my heresy of daring to question Saint George but for now my blasphemic gear and I shall retire to our cave. - This has nothing to do with saint G. If you have tried it the RIGHT way=20 (and applied you full mental capacity), you'll see that the Hog/DIR system= =20 is your flawed one superior in _all_ aspects. We ALL want to breathe but do= =20 not want to screw our buddy in the process. However you dive, do it safely. Regards. - Same to you, though it seems you insist _not_ doing so. Hilsen (Rgds.), =09 Peter Fjelsten -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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