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From: <gremlin@ma*.ic*.co*.za*>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:17:52 +0200 (GMT)
To: S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N <silent@cu*.ne*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Trimix Question
Hi have heard the following story and my source are good.


Apparently it happened somewhere in the UK.


Guy goes and gets a piece of phosfor bronze. Takes it to a fitter and
turner that then turns out for him the connection for the end of the
filling whip that goes into the din fitting on the cylinder. He collect
it from turner and fits it to the whip, never cleaning it.


He then start his first fill. This is of course in the garage like we all
do.

This goes as follows. connect cylinder. Opens Oxygen and steps out of the
garage. This put him about 8 m from the cylinder. Next thing Ka
Boooooom.


What happened. When they finishe scraping together what was left of the
inside of the garage they found the whip and everything. In little pieces
of course. They then discovered that the part that was turned at the
local machine shop was never cleaned and still had oil on it from the
turning process.




At 07:12 PM 4/7/99 -0700, S I L E N T  I M M E R S I O N wrote:

>>>> 

<excerpt>Frank,


I do not think that your tanks will "explode" if they are not O2 service. 


Let's get some feedback from the listmembers.


1. Anybody on this list know about any tanks that exploded while filling
nitrox?

2. Anybody not cleaning tanks/gear and still using pp blending?

3. Anybody had an oxygen fire due to bad system design/operator error?

4. Anybody blending oxygen with "normal" filtered air instead of
hyperfiltrated?


Would be interesting information.


What I do not agree on is that pp blending is dangerous. Blending nitrox
or trimix is a simple procedure and most people (all?) get some solid
info before starting such activities.


Some improperly designed air systems are more dangerous than any pp
blending station around. 


Adiabetic compresson is a problem when you have bad system design. Using
proper materials, valves and connections it is hard to get into 
trouble.

One thing people tend to forget is making sure there are no burrs in the
tubing you cut. Burrs could be the source for the start of an oxygen fire
because of the bad heat conduction and if they come loose you can get
particle impingement or a jammed valve.


Anyway, there's a lot of misconception about blending and especially pp
blending that I do not agree with. Maybe a lot has been started by
companies that sell membranes?

They seem to hate oxygen! (I wonder why...)


One of my favorite misconception I hear people talking about is the
rolling of tanks to get a homogeneous mix... Anybody doing that? :-)


Being on the techdiver list, I think all members should be able to make
their own mixes when necessary and especially when in remote locations
where it's the only way.

Not being able to get Helium seems a weak answer to me, we're located on
a small island in the Caribbean and it is available to us.


It's simple: 

No helium---->no deep dives


That will make you find it.


Regards,


THOMAS

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IMMERSION, Inc.

Caracasbaaiweg 276

Curacao, Netherlands Antilles

Tel/Fax: 599-9-767.70.14

Cell.: 599-9-562.13.23

www.silentimmersion.com

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