on, no, please tell me I haven't been arguing with a "fake."  That would,
however, explain a great deal.

Trout

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Bentley <jeffbentley@mi*.co*>
To: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>
Cc: Mike Rodriguez <mikey@ma*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, April 02, 1999 9:32 PM
Subject: Who is "mike rodriquez"?


>There has got to be some sushi for this guy.
>Who is it? I wasted time telling the guy he is silly and
>got sucked in.
>
>Jeff
>
>Ken Sallot wrote:
>
>> Thanks for posting the deco schedules and your wealth of experience on
>> deep stops. I haven't laughed that hard since I read the post about
>> using a long tube gavin for "digging".
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Mike Rodriguez wrote:
>> >
>> > At 05:31 AM 4/2/99 -0600, Jess Armantrout wrote:
>> >
>> > >>The purpose of deep-stops is to reduce the fatigue (generally
>> > >>believed to be sub-clinical DCS) that is often associated
>> > >>with deep/deco diving.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >no, it is for all symptoms of dcs.
>> >
>> > >From the Decom help file:
>> >
>> > "Divers utilizing deep stops report a lessened degree of
>> > fatigue."
>> >
>> > I agree that deep-stops reduce all symptoms of DCS, not just
>> > fatigue; however, in my conversations with divers who use
>> > deep stops, I've found that most use them to reduce fatigue,
>> > not to reduce other DCS symptoms.  This seems to be because
>> > fatigue is very common after diving, while more serious
>> > DCS symptoms are rare.  Also, most of the divers I've
>> > spoken to use conservative deco schedules rather than deep-
>> > stops to help avoid DCS.  If they also use deep-stops, they
>> > do so to reduce fatigue.
>> >
>> > So, in this context, I stand behind my original statement.
>> >
>> > >>Note that deep-stops have not been demonstrated to decrease
>> > >>the incidence of DCS, however deep-stops will almost
>> > >>certainly NOT INCREASE the incidence of DCS.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >yes, deep stops have been demonstrated to decrease the incidence of
dcs in
>> > >Richard Pyle and in the WKPP mixed gas exploration divers.  Failure to
de
>> > >them has been demonstrated to increase dcs in the same subjects.
>> >
>> > >From the Decom help file:
>> >
>> > "The numbers are not in on any reduction of DCS
>> > from this method. It will however NOT increase your rate
>> > of DCS incidence."
>> >
>> > If there is newer information available, please point us to
>> > it.  I'm very interested in reading it.
>> >
>> > >>Effectively, deeps-stops slow your ascent to prevent
>> > >>sub-clinical DCS from beginning in your saturated
>> > >>fast tissues yet keep your ascent fast enough to prevent
>> > >>your slow tissues from loading up on N2/He.  In practice,
>> > >>deep-stops add only a few (~5) minutes of deco time to
>> > >>the typical tech dive.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >no, done correctly deep stops reduce deco time
>> >
>> > Generated by Decom:
>> >
>> > Deep stops = YES
>> > Total deco time = *94*
>> > Depth Time   DT
>> >   200   30   30
>> >   120    1   34
>> >   110    1   35
>> >   100    1   36
>> >    90    1   37
>> >    80    1   38
>> >    70    3   41
>> >    60    6   47
>> >    50    7   54
>> >    40   14   68
>> >    30   20   88
>> >    20   15  103
>> >    10   24  127
>> >
>> > Deep stops = NO
>> > Total deco time = *90*
>> > Depth Time   DT
>> >   200   30   30
>> >    80    3   37
>> >    70    3   40
>> >    60    6   46
>> >    50    7   53
>> >    40   14   67
>> >    30   18   85
>> >    20   15  100
>> >    10   24  124
>> >
>> > -Mike Rodriguez
>> > <mikey@ma*.co*>
>> >
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