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>Why would you dive without a light? Its a system, not a bunch of pieces. Cuase it aint dark out? I dive DIR, but during day, recreational dives, I don't wear my cannister light. DIR also states you take only what you need...I really don't find a need for 50 watts at 9 a.m.... I think we're losing the commonsense portion of this system. Sean -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> To: Steve Hogan <Steve.Hogan@tr*.co*> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 12:17 PM Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates >It's my understanding the the cannister light (14AH) is 7lbs negative. > >Why would you dive without a light? Its a system, not a bunch of pieces. > >DIR or DDIAA. > >At 09:12 AM 3/16/1999 -0800, you wrote: >>Kevin, >> >>I found the V-weight interferred with the argon bottle. A solution >>was to notch out where the argon bottle strap goes. This still >>did not provide good trim for me. so I moved it. >> >>I still need the weight (all of 6 lbs), but not as a V-weight. >>This is when I am diving without my canister light. When I use >>my canister light, then no weight is needed. >> >>My canister light is not 6 lbs negative, only three. I use 6 >>lbs as smaller weights move or fall out. >> >>Steve >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 9:04 AM >>To: Steve Hogan >>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >>Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates >> >> >>Steve, you're quoted below saying weight is needed, and that a v-weight >>doesn't work well with an argon bottle, neither of which are true. >> >>There, I said it without an insult. >> >>At 08:30 AM 3/16/1999 -0800, you wrote: >>>More insults... >>> >>>As you will see in a message that I just sent to Cobb, >>>The trim is far better (for me) than the V weight. >>> >>>FWIW, I dive in Southern Californina (Sunday 52 deg) >>> >>>Why don't you explain what you are doing instead of assuming >>>that anyone diving different than you is doing is wrong? >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] >>>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 8:25 PM >>>To: Steve Hogan >>>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >>>Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates >>> >>> >>>Yes, steve, please tell us about your cold water drysuit diving. >>> >>>It must be a miracle how I dive in 41f water without any weight. Or, maybe >>>it's just that I do it right, and you do it wrong. >>> >>> >>>At 06:15 PM 3/15/1999 -0800, you wrote: >>>>Cobb, >>>> >>>>You didn't answer the question. >>>> >>>>For cold water/drysuit diving more lead is required. A V-Weight >>>>does not work very well with the Argon bottle, so one needs to >>>>add weight somewhere. >>>> >>>>I have found that I need 6 lbs (for the end of the dive to be neutral) >>>>I use two canvas pockets that I slide on to the waist belt. I have made >>>>them so I *can* ditch weight if I choose to. No big deal. Ths also allows >>>>me to use the same BC for warm water/cold water, single tanks/double >>tanks. >>>>The pockets are also a good place to put a jon line, notes, whatever. >>>> >>>>The stainless steel backplate would be way too much in warm water (- 8lb) >>>>So I made the pockets. I can also remove these underwater (with gloves) >>>>if necessary and they do not get in the way. >>>> >>>>Yes, I could optimize with two different BCs (SS and AL), but why? >>>>This system allows flexibility without compromising any other piece of >>>>equipment. Besides, I would much rather drop a weight than my canister. >>>> >>>>Steve >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*] >>>>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 5:08 PM >>>>To: RLucas1013@ao*.co*; Tech Diver >>>>Subject: Re: Weight belts and backplates >>>> >>>> >>>>In warm water ocean diving when properly configured you are only putting >>>>about 6 lbs or so on your weightbelt. The whole point of the exercise is >>>>for you to be able to swim up to the surface, not to ditch your weights >>>>in a mad panic and head to the surface like a goddamn polaris missle. >>>> >>>>If you are tech diving in cold water with a 7mm farmer john that needs >>>>35lbs of lead to sink then you are Doing It Wrong. You need to be in a >>>>drysuit, a wetsuit is not an option here. And if you are in a drysuit you >>>>have 2 ways of getting yourself to the surface. If you need a little >>>>extra buoyancy you drop your cannister light and your tools. >>>> >>>>And while George knows of what he speaks, he is stating common sense, not >>>>dogma. If you think a little about the situation I think you will agree. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>>Sender: RLucas1013@ao*.co* Date: 3/15/99 5:02 PM >>>> >>>>>I thought the idea of a weight belt was to drop in an emergency. George >>>has >>>>>stated diving with double alum tanks and a wet suit a weight belt is the >>>>way >>>>>to go in open ocean, so in case of an emergency drop the weight. How do >>>you >>>>>drop a V weight in an emergency with double alum tanks and a wet suit if >>>>that >>>>>is what you were referring to? In any event how do you drop a V weight in >>>>an >>>>>emergency in open water? >>>>>BOB >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>>>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>>>-- >>>>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>>>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>>> >>>----------------------------------------------- >>>Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >>> >>>NW Labor Systems, Inc >>>http://www.nwls.com >>> >>>And I suppose you want a user interface with >>>that..... >>>----------------------------------------------- >>> >>----------------------------------------------- >>Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> >>NW Labor Systems, Inc >>http://www.nwls.com >> >>And I suppose you want a user interface with >>that..... >>----------------------------------------------- >> >----------------------------------------------- >Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >NW Labor Systems, Inc >http://www.nwls.com > >And I suppose you want a user interface with >that..... >----------------------------------------------- >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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