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From: "Sean Cary" <smcary@be*.ne*>
To: "Chris Stenton" <jacs@gn*.co*.uk*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Upside down tank mounting - What's your opinion.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:12:43 -0500
No...I know about the article...saw the foolishness about a month or so
ago...  The way I see it a troll is something someone usually throws into a
new group or list to stir things up...just for the hell of it.  I kinda like
it sometimes, nothing better then to have a "Cobber" or "Armantrout" to
brighten up a day!  Hell, even Ken Sallot and Jeff Bently make my days
better when they slam the hell out of something!  So what the hell, its been
pretty slow lately, anybody wanna defend their bungee wings?  Maybe a butt
mounting troll?  Heck without the USDCT updates, I'm kinda bored.

Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Stenton <jacs@gn*.co*.uk*>
To: Sean Cary <smcary@be*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Upside down tank mounting - What's your opinion.


>> Wait, wait....ok. I read it again...Asbestos and Coke alert!  This has
GOT
>> to be a troll??
>>
>
>Err don't think so. There was an article in Diver mag about this sometime
ago.
>
>http://www.divernet.com/gear/invert1198.htm
>
>Thats not saying that I agree :-)
>
>
>>
>> >Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> >I have been reading this list for a few months now.  This is my first
>> >posting to this list. (please be gentle)
>> >
>> >First a little about myself,  I still consider my self a baby diver. I
have
>> >been diving for 11 years.  My most recent certification is as a
Commercial
>> >HSE Surface Supplied (Top Up) diver (Part 1 equivalent)  I got back from
>> Ft.
>> >Bovisand, Plymouth England only four months ago.  I do not consider
myself
>> a
>> >Tech Diver yet, but I am learning. My personal focus is on wreck diving
and
>> >not cave diving.
>> >
>> >I have been very interested in the DIR methodology.  Its practitioners
seem
>> >devoted, if not fanatical, about safety, and the furtherance of diving
>> >technique.
>> >
>> >With that said, I would like to open for discussion a possible
alteration
>> to
>> >the standard DIR method.  I DO NOT currently dive with this rigging
method,
>> >but am considering it. I would like your input and suggestions.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >While in England I was introduced to the idea of mounting your tanks so
>> that
>> >the valves were mounted on the bottom. (near your butt).  At first I
>> >dismissed this as being silly.  But after a proper introduction to the
>> >reasoning behind it, I think it has some possible advantages.
>> >
>> >One of my own concerns with this arrangement is that with the tanks
being
>> >upside down, any particulate matter in the tanks would head straight for
>> the
>> >valves.  (this shouldn't be a problem with properly inspected, and
>> >maintained tanks, but still...)
>> >
>> >The first possible advantage is that the valves are much easier to
reach.
>> >If you can scratch your butt you can turn a valve.  This comes in
>> especially
>> >handy for doubles with an isolation manifold.
>> >
>> >A second possible advantage.  When using round bottom (now top) tanks,
you
>> >are even more streamlined, and have greater clearance around your head.
>> >It's easier to look up or forward with NO obstructions behind your head.
>> >
>> >A third possible advantage. Your manifold is less likely to get banged
>> >during a "Push" though an overhead environment.
>> >
>> >
>> >And here is a big one for the Remove all excess potential failure points
>> >fans:
>> >
>> >The Royal navy divers do not use a pressure gauge. That's one less hose.
>> >They employ an interesting method of gas management.
>> >
>> >1- They start with two full tanks Isolated.
>> >One on, one off
>> >
>> >2- They breath the first tank to empty,
>> >then open the second tank
>> >The tanks then equalize so each tank is now at %50 capacity.
>> >They then shut off the second tank, isolating it.
>> >
>> >3- They breath the first tank to empty again,
>> >They then open the second tank
>> >The tanks then equalize so each tank is now at %25 capacity.
>> >This is the reserve point, so begin ascent procedures.
>> >
>> >I'm not sure I would want to dive without an SPG, but in this
configuration
>> >the hose length could at least be dramatically reduced.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-- Finally my questions.
>> >
>> >First, what is your opinion on this upside down idea?
>> >
>> >Second, how do you see this would effect the long hose, and other hose
>> >routings?
>> >
>> >- Craig Waldman
>> >    New Jersey
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