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From: "Sean Cary" <smcary@be*.ne*>
To: "Craig Waldman" <craig.waldman@er*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Upside down tank mounting - What's your opinion.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:26:25 -0500
Wait, wait....ok. I read it again...Asbestos and Coke alert!  This has GOT
to be a troll??

Cobber...this is a Free Fire Zone...I repeat Free Fire Zone.

The only bummer is that I think some of the more eloqent flamers are in
Mexico right now!

Sean

This should go on for DAYS.  I think I am having Residual Surface Induced
Narcosis...I dove last weekend and that fuzzy, kinda silly feeling is still
here...or that might be that I'm just bored as hell?


-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Waldman <craig.waldman@er*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 12:05 PM
Subject: Upside down tank mounting - What's your opinion.


>Hello Everyone,
>
>I have been reading this list for a few months now.  This is my first
>posting to this list. (please be gentle)
>
>First a little about myself,  I still consider my self a baby diver. I have
>been diving for 11 years.  My most recent certification is as a Commercial
>HSE Surface Supplied (Top Up) diver (Part 1 equivalent)  I got back from
Ft.
>Bovisand, Plymouth England only four months ago.  I do not consider myself
a
>Tech Diver yet, but I am learning. My personal focus is on wreck diving and
>not cave diving.
>
>I have been very interested in the DIR methodology.  Its practitioners seem
>devoted, if not fanatical, about safety, and the furtherance of diving
>technique.
>
>With that said, I would like to open for discussion a possible alteration
to
>the standard DIR method.  I DO NOT currently dive with this rigging method,
>but am considering it. I would like your input and suggestions.
>
>
>
>While in England I was introduced to the idea of mounting your tanks so
that
>the valves were mounted on the bottom. (near your butt).  At first I
>dismissed this as being silly.  But after a proper introduction to the
>reasoning behind it, I think it has some possible advantages.
>
>One of my own concerns with this arrangement is that with the tanks being
>upside down, any particulate matter in the tanks would head straight for
the
>valves.  (this shouldn't be a problem with properly inspected, and
>maintained tanks, but still...)
>
>The first possible advantage is that the valves are much easier to reach.
>If you can scratch your butt you can turn a valve.  This comes in
especially
>handy for doubles with an isolation manifold.
>
>A second possible advantage.  When using round bottom (now top) tanks, you
>are even more streamlined, and have greater clearance around your head.
>It's easier to look up or forward with NO obstructions behind your head.
>
>A third possible advantage. Your manifold is less likely to get banged
>during a "Push" though an overhead environment.
>
>
>And here is a big one for the Remove all excess potential failure points
>fans:
>
>The Royal navy divers do not use a pressure gauge. That's one less hose.
>They employ an interesting method of gas management.
>
>1- They start with two full tanks Isolated.
>One on, one off
>
>2- They breath the first tank to empty,
>then open the second tank
>The tanks then equalize so each tank is now at %50 capacity.
>They then shut off the second tank, isolating it.
>
>3- They breath the first tank to empty again,
>They then open the second tank
>The tanks then equalize so each tank is now at %25 capacity.
>This is the reserve point, so begin ascent procedures.
>
>I'm not sure I would want to dive without an SPG, but in this configuration
>the hose length could at least be dramatically reduced.
>
>
>
>-- Finally my questions.
>
>First, what is your opinion on this upside down idea?
>
>Second, how do you see this would effect the long hose, and other hose
>routings?
>
>- Craig Waldman
>    New Jersey
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