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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:06:44 +0100
From: Paolo Velcich <pavel@ma*.na*.it*>
To: Skip MacElhannon <skipmac@cs*.co*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Nobel prize winner dies at Wakulla
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I know something about the past as a reader of the old AquaCorps, National
Geographics and other mags, I also got several chances to read all over the net,
and I'm not arguing or defending anyone of the two counterparts.
Also, as an industrial designer I already suffered for stolen ideas or projects
(which are two totally different things) and I'm in the position of fully
understanting the issue.

I would like to better explain I'm not complaining single events or
circumstances,
I was speaking about a behaviour which is negative in itself.

I must declare I don't know all the details but for what I know, from my
personal
point of view, in absence of undiscovered treasures, I think it started
completely
wrong from the beginning, with an absurd competition an fight.

When a general and public interest is the game, which is represented by
evolution
and knowledge, "SHARE" is my mind and I can't understand any kind of claim and
limited rights.

This is what I feel and the reason why I entered this thread.

What happens if we use the same motivations on the "UNESCO Document on Wreck
Diving"? Unesco and the Diving community would be asy represented by WKKP and
USDCT, who is the one and who is the other? Who is right and who is wrong? I
think
the problem is the argument itself, a new - unnecessary - regulation to
"protect"
the wrecks of the world. But somedody else would say something different because
of his own interests.

What do you say if I ask you
"is it good to <protect> all the wrecks around the world?"
and if I ask you
"is it good to deny <wreck diving> all around the world?"

I'm sure you would give me two opposite answers, but the question is exactly the
same, the only difference is in the point of view.

We can solve this kind of problems only if we change our own menthality and we
accept sharing knowledge and experience as the only way to progress and limit
fatalities.

Sorry to be so long and I apologize for mistakes or incorrect use of the
language
which is not my first one.

Blue skies and deep blues

Paolo


Skip MacElhannon wrote:

> I understand your plea for cooperation and I too share this wish. I deplore
> the descension and the bad name it is giving all of us in public.  However,
> imagine this.  What if there was a competing organization that has stolen
> your equipment designs, a group that has publicly and privately tried to
> sabotage your own project, a group that has published articles that brag
> about their discoveries (in the area you spent 10 years exploring) without
> even a mention of your project (and so make the public believe that all the
> work and discoveries were done by the them and not you), a group that has
> had a member of a previous expedition die, arguably because of poor
> planning and decisions by the leader of that group.
>
> Now I am not a leader of the WKPP and cannot confirm from my own knowledge
> that all of these things occurred (I just read about them on the net like
> you), but I do know personally that the USDCT stole technology developed by
> the WKPP by years of hard work (because I know the person that did it and
> this person admitted it to me).  I do know for a fact that they had a diver
> die on a previous project (read National Geographic Sept 1995) due to the
> decision by their leader to allow a diver with a serious medical condition
> (diabetes) to do very strenuous, advanced, exploration dives.  I do know
> that the USDCT has now had a death on their current project. Would you urge
> cooperation with that group knowing what they have done and knowing that it
> might endanger the lives of the members of your own group?
>
>

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