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Subject: Re: Pony thread
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:21:15 -0500
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: <Rubrifolia@ao*.co*>, "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Let's see. Let's do a search on you to see what threads you have started 
and what YOU have contributed to the sport...  uh, huh....  yup...   I 
see.

Well, it appears that the only posts you have made to tech diver are to 
defend your little diving world up there. No posts with suggestions, no 
posts about equipment, discussions, nothing but a bunch of bitching about 
the injustice and unfairness of, well, it appears anybody on planet earth 
who does not dive off the boats up there.

Your posts are about status quo, everythings fine, we've always done it 
this way, who are you judge, etc. etc.

Lisa, please don't be a close-minded nattering neybob of negativism with 
absolutely nothing to contribute to the discussion at all. There's enough 
of that going on at rec.scuba.

Might I suggest you expand your posting horizon and YOU start a thread or 
two about gear technique and style, rather than sitting your butt waiting 
to pounce on anybody suggesting that your way is not the only way. It's 
not hard to do and sometimes downright fun.

By the way, IMHO, mean this is my opinion, my outlook, my aspect, my view 
on things. All I am doing is typing words for all to read and digest. Is 
that not what this forum is all about? I assume my argument must have 
some bearing on reality or else why would you and the others be so worked 
up about it? If you see me on a dive boat I will be busily working on my 
gear and not saying a word to ponyboys, bungeeboys or whatever horror 
someone decides to equip his or herself with. It's a free country, dive 
how you like.

   Jim

Sender: Rubrifolia@ao*.co*  Date: 1/19/99 12:16 PM

>In a message dated 1/19/99 9:59:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>cobber@ci*.co* writes:
>
><< 
> 
> I have accomplished what I set out to do with this pony thread. That is 
> to encourage you all to think about why you use a pony rather than 
> mindlessly strapping one on the side of your tank because it's seems like 
> the cool thing to do.
> 
> I hope that this new level of consciousness about ponys will encorage 
> those deco diving with a single and a pony to reconsider what they are 
> doing. Considering this is "techdiver" I was kind of surprized as to the 
> outpouring of support for large ponys, which makes me suspicious as to 
> what you "techdivers" are doing out there.
> 
> >>
>Once again your arrogance is boggling.....without you none of us would be 
>able
>to think through our gear and our gear choices.....all those boat rides spent
>noodling around gear, gear configurations and choices just never 
>happen....all
>those dinners where the non-diving friends fall asleep in the mashed potatoes
>while the divers debate details just dont happen
>
>YOU are the one with blinders on ...the  only correct way from your argument
>is doubles...the reallity is that many people for many reasons will use
>singles and the reality is, or should be, to create as safe and complete air
>package as can be done......only your way is the correct way....and only your
>experiences...which from reading your posts is fairly limited......are 
>used as
>validation.....yes, from a tech forum you got many responses,......where do
>tech divers come from???, they come from single tankers.....many divers --not
>yet tech, or on the borderline--as we all know from our private e mails--read
>this forum.....
>
>We are all part of a small community, the dive community....you stated that
>you are surprised that boats up here babysit divers.....again, what blind
>arrogance....boats are the great continuum of the community....boats are 
>where
>the diver meets the reality of the ocean instead of the pool or
>quarry....boats are where the diver learns to be a diver....where divers give
>of their experience to the not yet divers....not by brass ball waving....at
>least not  all the time.....the boats I have sailed on were run by folks who
>live and breathe and eat diving....and they want safe, complete, competent
>divers....therefore they will spend time with divers....talking, teaching,
>directing, guiding.....we all started out clumsy klutzes with all kinds of
>gear all over the place....it took boats and going out continuallly to get 
>the
>program together.....
>
>So, again, as I see it, but one of my boat Captains may step in to fine tune
>this:
>
>Single tanker should carry a pony used as a completely redundant, emergency
>air source...if its not mounted corrrectly, banging around or hanging you up,
>get someone on the boat deck to help you out...if there isnt anyone on that
>deck, get yourself to a better boat....
>
>Once your dive profiles start requiring more gas....move on to doubles....
>
>Once your dive profiles start requiring more gas ....move on to
>stages.....bigger bottles, bigger bottles, bigger bottles,,,,,<g>
> 
>
>


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