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From: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>, Scaleworks@ao*.co*
Cc: artg@ec*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Halcyon Stealth Pack & Surf Mat
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:48:10 -0500
I agree with Kevin that a 50 lb. is the minimum that should be used by
anyone doing wreck diving in our area.  Depending on the depth and
possible conditions, bigger could be better.  A 50 lb. isn't all that
big.  Fit's loosely into my pocket.  I can still fit a small light in
the pocket as well.  Can't fit a 100 or bigger in my pocket though.
That ones gotta go in the tool bag.

Art.

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Ingemar Lundgren
[SMTP:ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*]
	Sent:	Thursday, January 14, 1999 7:08 PM
	To:	Scaleworks@ao*.co*
	Cc:	artg@ec*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
	Subject:	Re: Halcyon Stealth Pack & Surf Mat

	As i explained i do not use the lift bag in such a way that you
do. The way i use
	it 30ib is enough.
	To me it does not seem optimal to carry a huge up line reel and
an enormous lift
	bag.

	Scaleworks@ao*.co* wrote:

	> In a message dated 99-01-14 17:54:26 EST,
ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*
	> writes:
	>
	> <<
	>  30 pounds is plenty enough.  If that is not enough one should
go back
	>  to basic training in my opinion.  I never touch the reel line
when i use it
	>  as a upline.
	>  I just use it as a visual reference to aid me keeping a
constant depth.
	>  If you want to hang on the line the 30 pound is enough to but
i personally
	>  think that is proof of bad diving skill (i do not imply that
you have bad
	>  skill) >>
	>
	> Try tying a 30lb bag to a wreck with 1/8 inch line in a good
stiff current,
	> then send it up 150' or so and see how well it floats. With
yours, the lines,
	> and the bags combined surface area for the current to work on,
you should find
	> it somewhere below the surface. Most people diving in the area
Art is
	> referring to, which has potential for strong currents, swear
by 150lb to
	> 200lb, stable enough to hang on. I really like the new sealed
Halcyon bag,
	> hope they make some larger capacities.
	>
	> Kevin



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