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Bill,
What my intended meaning was is that the "people who say DON't Touch" are
not advocating a ban on exploration of these wrecks. Certainly most can
realize we have many reasons to leave these ships as they lay, but any
mainstream advocates for protection of wrecks(at least those I am aware of)
don't include an "off limits to visitors"
policy.
I have many friends on both sides of the border who agree on the
preservation issue.
It's interesting,however, to sit in an audience in Ontario and hear that
the "most of the wreck strippers come from the other side of the lake" and
then hear the exact same opinion expressed here(New York State). Largely
BS..........
It sounds like Michigan's charters have their stuff together. You may be
able to enjoy your wrecks for years to come.....
TR
> From: Bill Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
> To: trasbeck@dr*.co*; Wahooorg@ao*.co*; vbtech@ci*.co*
> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: Diver charged for looting the Empress
> Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 11:55 PM
>
> Thomas,
>
> I have never been on a charter on the Great Lakes and NOT been told hands
> off!!! Checkout http://underwateroutfitters.com/charter.html The first
> thing below the heading on the page is an excerpt from the Michigan State
> law. I can tell you from experiance that that Capt. does not just say it
> he MEANS IT!!! If you take a look at
> http://underwateroutfitters.com/photo.html you may start to get an idea
why
> Great Lakes divers are so protestive of their wrecks. The Dunderburg
went
> down in 1868. Today you can still see the red paint on the eyes of the
> figurehead!!! There are many artifacts on some of these wrecks and at
> least a few on most of them. All of the charters up here will tell you
not
> to disterb the wrecks. And most of them MEEN IT!!! If cought with
> artifacts onboard the sheriff can and most likely will impound their boat
> and everything onboard. Many of us on the south side of the Lakes show
> equal restraint!!!
>
> At 10:57 AM 12/22/98 , Thomas Rasbeck wrote:
> >Actually, there are a number of sites on the Canadian side where
artifacts
> >are left on decks of wrecks. Our northern neighbors have shown a
remarkable
> >amount of restraint
> >and most of the stuff remains year after year. As of yet, I have heard
of
> >no one being told DON'T TOUCH on wrecks, but I don't pretend to speak
for
> >the Canadians. There are many web sites dedicated to shipwreck
preservation
> >and shipwreck exploration(diving) all at the same time. No boogie man
> >hiding in these closets threatening the banning of shipwreck enjoyment.
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Wahooorg@ao*.co*
> >> To: vbtech@ci*.co*; trasbeck@dr*.co*
> >> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >> Subject: Re: Diver charged for looting the Empress
> >> Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 12:41 PM
> >>
> >> I think you will be greatly surprised, not to see the silverware and
> >plates
> >> while diving. They have all been removed to protect them, by the
people
> >who
> >> say DON'T TOUCH and 95% never to be seen again
> >> captain steve bielenda
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/24/1998 8:18:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> >> captjt@mi*.co* writes:
> >>
> >> > >Someone questioned on this list where would we see plates and
> >silverware
> >> > >left in place.
> >> > >Answer: Many places in the St.Lawrence River........
> >> >
> >> > OK your have 24hrs to tell us exactly where!Don't worry , I will
treat
> >it
> >> > as an old pile of wood:)
> >> >
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> Bill (aquadart) Bott
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