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Erik, As KVI has already pointed out: the light design, the p-valve design, the scooter design, etc. of equipment used by the WKPP are all due to Gavin. I believe that most of us in the WKPP are more concerned that others abandon the dangerous overpriced crap that is commonly peddled by cave instructors and dive shop monkeys and instead adopt gear based on the proven superior designs that originated with Gavin. -John > And on top of that most of the guys hate Arnold Jackson > because he was the one putting the WKPP name on gear he sold without > telling anyone on the WKPP. who is trying to make the buck? the fact > that Arnold tried to use their name on his gear to promote sales is > completely underhanded. And now we hear that Trader John is stealing > designs of pee valves. When will it end and WKPP get the credit they > deserve. > > Erik > > >From owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Thu Oct 15 17:08:45 1998 > >Received: (mail@lo*) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) for > > id TAA19257; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:13:11 -0400 > >Precedence: bulk > >Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) with EXEC for techdiver > > id RAA10113; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:17:40 -0400 > >From: <JDA000@ao*.co*> > >Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) with ESMTP for > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > id RAA10101; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:17:38 -0400 > >Received: from JDA000@ao*.co* > > by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id IRPCa02329; > > Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:17:29 -0400 (EDT) > >Message-ID: <d00755f1.36266669@ao*.co*> > >Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:17:29 EDT > >To: rat@ne*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, AMERUWLITE@ao*.co*, > > kens@ac*.ne*, kirvine@sa*.ne* > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Subject: Re: faluse advertising, More lies by Barry > >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 > > > >In a message dated 10/15/98 1:45:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > rat@ne*.co* > >writes: > > > ><< John, you stupid fuck, > > I wrote to you personally and you seem to want to make things > personal. I > >liked the way YOU put in rat@ne*.co* (Barry Miller, Extreme > Exposure) as > >I was writing you as a team member and as you can see never mentioned > EE. > > I did not say anything about the name of any product that AUL makes, > and he > >does make a fine product. I simply said that "John, nobody uses this > light on > >our team." this includes George, he made the dive on a nicad light you > stupid > >fuck. And what is this about,>> > > > >Barry, I spoke to George 2 hours ago, He said that he personally > dives an > >AUL light spectrum version. > >Are you know calling George a liar? > >I will not mention in this forum what George said about you designing > lights > >and the quality of them. > >I know the history between you and Arnold Jackson and the way you had > stuck > >him. > > > > BTW: For all the people that do not feel like reading this entire > message > > George Irvine, WKPP director does consider AUL lights more than > appropriate > > for all WKPP dives. > > > > <<John you stupid fuck, I said nothing about this. I will remind you > again > >what I said," While I was there, I noticed you advertised that the > > AUL 100 was used by many of the WKPP. John, nobody uses this light on > our" > > Now John you stupid fuck, I will tell you what I think of you > personally. I > >think that you were one load your mother should have swallowed since it > seems > >that the best part of you ran down your mothers leg!! John you stupid > fuck, > >unlike you, I am not trying to sell gear to everyone with this e-mail, > but to > >point out what a stupid fuck you really are. John you stupid fuck, > NEVER > >change any header of an e-mail that I send you to try to sell gear. > NEVER try > >to say again that I put down anyones gear as I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING TO > YOU IN > >THE PERSONAL LETTER I SENT YOU. > > > > Barry, Just in case you have not figured it out yet I do take my > business > >seriously. I am in the business to make money. I sell only quality > products > >and provide great service. I am not going to call you names on this > forum as > >I do not see what good it will do. I do not see any reason to play > games with > >you. > > > >John "The Stupid Fuck" Allen > >Owner John's Scuba Equipment. > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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