Hi Jess,

Did it ever occur to you that if a WKPP diver was killed, it might affect
the USDCT's access? It's a two-way street.  It's infintely clear that you
folks are of the impression that a WKPP diver is much less likely to die
than a USDCT diver is at Wakulla.  Problem is, you don't really know enough
about the USDCT divers, or their equipment, to make that assessment. The
WKPP certainly knows more about diving deep and long at Wakulla than anyone
else on Earth.  Nobody is arguing that.  Unfortunately, that alone does not
allow you to accurately compare relative risks faced by each team.

There's a bit of hypocrisy here as well.  Your argument seems to be that you
know more about diving at Wakulla, so we should take your word for it. The
problem is, you repeatedly demonstrate a gaping knowledge of how the Mk-5
works, but you seem utterly convinced that it is a wholely inappropriate
life-support system to be used in that environment.  Jess, as far as the
ability of a diver to survive on a MK-5 under EXTREMELY adverse and
stressful circumstances...well...I guess you'll just have to "take my word
for it".

Aloha,
Rich

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jess Armantrout [mailto:armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 7:52 AM
> To: dive4wrk@pi*.co*
> Cc: Jeff Bentley; Tom Mount; Bill Mee; Rebreather mail list;
> cavers@ca*.co*; techdiver; "Dan Volker"; "Richard Pyle";
> kirvine@sa*.ne*
> Subject: Re: WKKP: Love, Hate, CCRs and the USDCT
>
>
> Great post.  Thanks for the input.
>
> The problem is when they kill somebody, it will most likely affect our
> access.  If I told you the next Cis fatality would mean the end of ocean
> diving, perhaps you could appreciate the situation a little more.
>
> As to the SAT analogy, Stone & Co would be safer trying to pull that off
> than diving A tunnel on the Cis.  If you did it, it can't be that hard.
>
> As you say, I've been there done that, and until you have, I
> guess you will
> just have to take my word on it.
>
> Jess
>
> ----------
> > From: Joseph Dituri <dive4wrk@pi*.co*>
> > To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
> > Cc: Jeff Bentley <jeffbentley@mi*.co*>; Tom Mount
> <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>; Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>; Rebreather mail
> list <rebreather@nw*.co*>; cavers@ca*.co*; techdiver
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>; "Richard Pyle"
> <deepreef@bi*.bi*.or*>; kirvine@sa*.ne*
> > Subject: Re: WKKP: Love, Hate, CCRs and the USDCT
> > Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 12:00 PM
> >
> > Jess & Jeff,,
> > 	It's nothing like putting a Sosiss array out of a SAT system at 850+
> > feet with excursions to 1200 feet either.  And I know neither of you has
> > done that...  Stop swinging the "I did it and you can't thing."  If they
> > have leanring to do in "A" tunnel, then let them learn JUST LIKE YOU HAD
> > TO DO.  It wasn't that long ago that you would not have dreamed of being
> > where you are today.
> > 	What if there was a group shouting at you telling you you would kill
> > yourself when you started your quest for the end (or whatever you are
> > doing)...  If your rely concerned for their safety, call STONE and ask
> > him if he wants your "expert help"  If not, sit back and watch.
> > Whatever you do, lay off the "Holier than thow stuff".
> > 	I have a headache :)
> > WARM REGARDS
> > JOE
> > > Jeff
> > > These guys have no clue the level of concentration it takes
> to dive "A"
> > > tunnel.  When they try it for real, these discussions will
> end once and
> for
> > > all.  It ain't like Madison Blue's basin or the run between Little
> Devil's
> > > and Devil's Eye.
>

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