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From: "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     "Rebreather" ,
     "Kirvine" , "pH" ,
     "Bill Mee"
Cc: "Terry Giles" <terry@wo*.co*>
Subject: FW: antioxidants
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:15:55 -0400


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terry@wo*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 5:49 PM
To: 'Dan Volker'
Subject: RE: antioxidants


In reference to this - vitamin c does not have a half life and the
absorption ratio or absorption aspects of vitamin c depend largely on the
source of supplemental vitamin c as well as the individual using the vitamin
c - all I can say is PH is quoting research 30 years old - he should pull
his head out of his butt and read the latest research on anti-oxidants,
vitamins, minerals and their absorption based on their effication and
source. He sounds like a geek that read far too many out dated nutrition and
chemistry books.

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From:  Dan Volker [SMTP:dlv@ga*.ne*]
Sent:  Thursday, September 24, 1998 9:24 AM
To:  terry@wo*.co*
Subject:  FW: antioxidants



-----Original Message-----
From: rebreather-request@nw*.co*
[mailto:rebreather-request@nw*.co*] On Behalf Of pH
Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 3:16 AM
To: rebreather@nw*.co*
Subject: Re: antioxidants


At 06:40 PM 9/20/98 -0400, Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
>  For C, we all know it does not last too long in the body.....

Not desiring to read the rest of the extraordinary mumbo-jumbo that
dribbled out of the mouth of Katherine aka George Irvine III, I had to
laugh at the above, for it was on Vitamin C absorption and "retention" that
I cut my research teeth almost 30 years ago.

As many know, you can take large doses of Vit C and make your urine
saturated with the stuff in short order. Plasma levels of Vit C follow a
similar short half-life. Many, many years ago it was erroneously assumed
that this meant you could "saturate" yourself with Vit C with a brief, high
dose exposure.

Leaving aside its "magical" powers - a dubious concept at best, now that
Linus Pauling has gone to the great lemon in the sky - Vit C *tissue*
levels are what it's all about.  Since most people object to bits being cut
out of them at regular intervals, we measured Vit C levels in white blood
cells (WBC), an established surrogate for (slow?) tissue. We found that it
took about 6-8 weeks of 1-2 grams by mouth per day to establish maximum
steady state levels of Vit C in WBC. As noted, this is not "new" research,
but almost 30 years old. So, the question for G4 is - who is telling you
these fairy tales?

pH

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