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Art, Why not take a gas blending course. Sure, there is an initial outlay of coin, but then you mix your own. And lets face it, this is not rocket science. When I teach and dive, I buy a T-bottle of O2 for $23 CDN and a T-botle of He for $60. It ain't that expensive to do it yourself! It's cheap enough that I dive He in almost all of my dives. Regards Tim Ross Paltz, Art wrote: > Steve, > > I think you're really lucky. The typical cost in the North East (at > least NY/NJ) is between $75-$95 for a set of doubles with mix. 40cf of > O2 is about $10-$15. Let's calculate it out. 2 tank boat dive $55-$75 > if you don't go way off shore. Hum, $65 (boat) + 2 x $85 (doubles) + 2x > $12 (deco) = about $250 for a mix dive outing. If you do the Doria on a > 5-6 tank boat and bring your own gas you can expect a total cost of > about $250-$500 PER DIVE. > > I think you're really lucky if you're doing mix dives for a gas cost of > $25. > > Art. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Hogan [SMTP:Steve_Hogan@qm*.sp*.tr*.co*] > Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 8:21 PM > To: Kevin Rottner; scubait@ix*.ne*.co*; > techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: " but costs too much " > > Kevin, > > All of these guys are whining that it costs too much have not > been > looking, they are just lazy. > > For an average day diving (with 18/40 mix, 50/50 deco) my total > gas costs are > about $25. I think my life is worth that (although I am sure > there is some > debate on that one<G>) > > They do like that buzz on the "really deep dive" > > Steve > ------------------------------ > Date: 9/21/98 5:02 PM > To: Hogan, Steve > From: Kevin Rottner > > >And, p.s., it ain't going to filter down because of a simple > concept called > >economics. You may not understand such a bizarre concept but it > is the real > world. > > I am amazed at the number of local Southern California divers > that dive air > between 50' and 130', when inexpensive nitrox fills are readily > available, " > but cost too much ". > > I am amazed at the number of local Southern California divers > that come up > blue and shivering, when inexpensive good quality drysuits are > readily > available, " but cost too much". > > I am amazed at the number of local Southern California divers > that push the > tables, when inexpensive but very advanced dive computers are > readily > available, " but cost too much". > > I am amazed at the number of local Southern California divers > that dive old > crappy worn out gear ( mask, fins, regs, ets. ), when > inexpensive gear is > readily available, " but costs too much". > > Nitrox is too expensive ?? Think about the cost of an evac. and > chamber > series. Think about the cost of a corpse repatriation and > funeral. > > This is what we should "filter down" to the masses. > > The difference between the cost of making three gas dives off a > dive boat or > three air dives of a boat is insignificant when you calculate > the cost of > all our training and gear, and the price of the boat ticket into > those three > dives, or average the total cost of our training and gear over > our dive careers. > > But the inherient increased safety factor of using the best mix > for the dive > is tremendous. > > " it costs too much " is just an excuse. > > Kevin > > " You'll never miss the water, > until the well runs dry . . .. " > > as sung by Bob Marley > > [\] > | > | > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > o > o > o o > o o > _____ o o > (_/\_) o o o > =( )= oo > > Kevin Rottner > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ > Received: by qmail2.sp.trw.com with ADMIN;21 Sep 1998 17:00:35 > -0700 > Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@bi*.te*.ne* > [199.103.128.2]) > by mail-relay2.trw.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id > QAA04446 > for <Steve_Hogan@qm*.sp*.tr*.co*>; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 > 16:53:39 -0700 (PDT) > Received: (mail@lo*) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) for > id TAA05417; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:03:35 -0400 > Precedence: bulk > Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com > Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) with EXEC for > techdiver > id SAA01524; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:31:59 -0400 > Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net > (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.85]) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) with ESMTP for > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > id SAA01516; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:31:58 -0400 > Received: from LOCALNAME > (pool011-max9.ds23-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.26.61]) > by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP > id PAA10643; > Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:30:43 -0700 (PDT) > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:30:43 -0700 (PDT) > Message-Id: <199809212230.PAA10643@gu*.pr*.it*.ea*.ne*> > X-Sender: rottner@ea*.ne* > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > To: scubait@ix*.ne*.co*, <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > From: Kevin Rottner <Kevin@So*.co*> > Subject: " but costs too much " > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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