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> Mike, I think you are missing a MAJOR piece of the problem here....you are > assuming the instructor will follow the "Zimmerman" standards, and do the > "diving is dangerous talk". NO Dan. What I am saying is that there is more than one way to attack this problem. In the mouse/mouse-trap analogy you guys are focusing on removing any possible trap from the world, I am suggesting we make smarter mice. Laudable as both goals may be, you will never remove all the traps, and all the mice will not get smarter, however by working on both goals, fewer mice will get caught. These do not have to be mutually exclusive goals. However you boys seem terrified of the idea that we should encourage divers to be more responsible for themselves. Why Dan, why? > The new divers will NOT be able to tell the McKulties from the Jablonski's, Dan we are talking about techincal training. By this point in a diving career we can and should expect and instill some sense of self-responsibility. People have a funny way of living up to expectations Dan. You accused Wrolf of being dangerous. Look at your own postings and consider the effect. I suggest divers take some responsibility, exercise some judgement and you attack the idea. What kind of divers are you advocating? > That's the Amemrican consumer, as sad a statement as it is. If you don't > like it, just where do you plan on finding a better home for your > ideologies? Simple Dan, I choose to live my idealogies. You have to start with yourself. As I stated before... sign me up with the worst instoketor you can find Dan... let them try to kill me. I promise you Dan they will have a very hard time. If I can make it hard for them what is so objectionable about encouraging others to do the same? Or maybe this is just a religion like Steve suggested, where only the "gods" can "save" you, and you are helpless to help yourself. You could teach people to look after themselves rather well if you were willing to abandon your single-track ideas. Remeber Dan, what is the goal? The goal is not to nash instructors, the goal is not to make ourselves feel good after an accident by assigning blame, the goal is to help prevent future accidents. Helping student-divers to play a part in that prevention cannot be a bad thing, yet you guys can't see past your solution to see that others may exist and improve the overall results. Mike -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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