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Mike, The "world" does not revolve around diving. Most new divers have experienced many other forms of instruction prior to diving, and the problem is, most "ARE", "trust me, I'm the instructor" scenarios. It starts in elementary school through college, and gets worse with each new sport they need instruction for. You may find some examples of individual sports like skydiving which may defy this trend, but the "masses" are used to "trust me", and they don't question it. Mike, what planet are you really from ? :-) Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Zimmerman [mailto:zimmmt@au*.al*.co*] > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 4:33 PM > To: KybrSose@ao*.co* > Cc: zimmmt@au*.al*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: A Call to Arms > > > > Trust me dives are happening and its NOT the 100% fault of the > student. > > The student is fully at fault for going on any trust me dive Al. > There is no half pregnant Al. The student is willing putting > themselves way beyond their ability level. > > > In fact I'd say the more of a "trust me" dive it is < ie the > less prepared the > > student> the MORE responsible an instructor is and less blame > the student > > should shoulder. > > Any student who lives in your utopia Al (where "trust me" dives > are safe), is also going to have to live in another utopia > of yours where every instructor is safe. > > Since most of us don't live in that utopia Al, we have to > realize that all instructors are not going to be there for us > at every turn. > > If all instructors will not be there for us, then it stands to > reason you need to protect yourself and not put yourself at risk > on "trust me" dives. > > Your paradigm is flawed Al. It assumes that a student need > take no responsibility since you think you can make every > instructor safe. You cannot. Since you cannot, you have to > go beyond this bashing the instructor lynch scene. To help > prevent further accidents we have to get the students to look > out for themselves. > > You still haven't supplied an example training dive that any > tech student couldn't prepare for. You still have no > good reason for anyone to go on a trust me dive. > > > The more unprepared the student is for the class, the more it > is the fault of > > the instructor for allowing them to be there in the first place. > > heehee, this is a funny way to shift blame Al. > > The instructor shares fault no matter what. But this idea of > the student not being at fault Al is bullshit. You need to get > beyond the idea you can never agree with anything I say. Its > getting kinda silly. > > > No matter how prepared the student is, the paradigm remains the > same. The > > instructor is responsible. > > And the student is not Al? > > Mike > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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