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Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 05:47:24 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: GarlooEnt@ao*.co*
CC: ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*, armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*,
     Rubrifolia@ao*.co*, wwm@sa*.ne*, Kevin@So*.co*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ca*.co*
Subject: Re: SV: A Call to Arms
Hank, none of our top pros have been up there to dive - we all know
this. You have been down here with me. We are only talking the basics,
Hank, and those do not change for cold water. We would like to see the
dive "instructors" out there knock off the bulshit, but then most of the
really stupid stuff in written into the "standards", because the
"standards" are created by those who have never done it for real, and
refuse to change in the face of constant death.


GarlooEnt@ao*.co* wrote:
> 
> excuse me  for my 2 cents here -
> nobody up here that i have dove with _wreck or cavies - has any desire to kick
> anybody's ass. i think that is your problem you are into the macho bullshit
> -"I'm better than you attitude" & it is quite counter productive.
> 
> BTW if you are that close with Steve -ask him about his first doria dive.
> 
> hank
> 
> In a message dated 9/1/98 7:56:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se* writes:
> 
> << > Från: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
>  > Till: Rubrifolia@ao*.co*; wwm@sa*.ne*; Kevin@So*.co*;
>  techdiver@aquanaut.com
>  > Kopia: cavers@ca*.co*; kirvine@sa*.ne*
>  > Ämne: Re: A Call to Arms
>  > Datum:  den 1 september 1998 21:03
>  >
>  > Steve Berman, so the story goes, came up to dive the Doria a while back
>  and
>  > kicked ya'll's asses. >>


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