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Subject: Re: Boats
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 08:23:39 -0000
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@mi*.co*>
To: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <cavers@ca*.co*>
Jeeze, Chris, lets kiss some major butt here! Just when I thought you had 
a spine you knuckle under as you usually do. Christ, what a wimp. From 
superman to boot-licking lacky, is this how you address King? "Oh, I'm 
sorry Mr. King, sir, I was sitting in your chair...Here, let me dust it 
off for you. Say, there's a skuff on your snake skin boot there, can I 
have the honor of buffing it off for you? Oooooh Thaaaaank you sirrrrrr! 
What's that sir, you need to borrow $20? Well all I've got it my childs 
milk-money, but it would be an honor to give it to you, sir! What, sir? 
roll it up and light it on fire so you can use it to ignite your Cuban 
Cigar? Uh, well, er, OK, sir, whatever you say, sir. Do you have a match? 
(SMACK!) Ouch! I mean do you have a match SIR? Whats that sir? Your boots 
are getting dirty on the dirt? Well, let me get down on my hands and 
knees sir to you can prop them up on my back"

On 8/28/98 12:09 PM Brown, Christopher wrote:

>Bill Wolk says:
>>
>>Since Errol Kalayci is not on the list at the moment, let me clarify this
>>point based on my conversations with him.  I'll use small words so
>>everything is perfectly clear to you:
>>
>>1) Derrick McNulty tried to schedule a deep air dive for himself and an
>>unnamed student off the Grateful Diver.  He was told in no uncertain
>>terms that deep air diving was not permitted on the Grateful Diver
>>because it is not safe.
>>
>>2) Instead of planning a safer dive not involving deep air, Derrick
>>simply went to another boat.
>>
>>3) No one refused Jane Orenstein anything.
>>
>>4) The rest is unfortunately history.
>
>Bill -- Thanks for the clarification.
>
>Ray laT said (about 8 times) that *she* was turned away from the GD as
>stated in his post:
>
>>Are you aware that she was turned away from diving on the "GreatFull
>>Diver"
>
>That's a big difference.
>
>I did exactly what I have admonished others not to do: made the mistake of
>taking at face value something erroneous and inaccurate published on the
>lists. I apologize for accepting bad information and basing my following
>questions on same.
>
>The GD is, for good reason, the most reputable operation in S. FL. Not only
>have we have seen how they come thru when the shit hits the fan, but they
>show true leadership in the first place. R. laT's "information" made them
>appear to be uncharacteristically cold-hearted and that's why I reacted
>with more questions. Turning *her instructor* away and refusing to take a
>deep air course out on the boat is in keeping with their wise/high
>standards. They did all they could in the circumstances, acting responsibly.
>
>For some time, I have looked forward to one day meeting Mr. Kalayci, to
>thank him personally for risking himself in the recovery of a dear friend
>in the Bahamas. Now I include an apology. Again, I am very sorry for any
>misconceptions I participated in. And although I did so unwittingly, I
>realize that is no excuse.
>
>Thanks for this important clarification, Bill.
>
>By way of background, I lost two friends several years ago when they died
>together on a dive. Since both had the "cotton in", our local diving
>community rejected them. The result was that they found each other and
>formed a deadly "team." I tried to work with one, rather than reject him
>too and leave him to his own devices, in order to head off disaster. But he
>went there anyway. Ever since, I have felt strongly that it is extremely
>important to take more care, rather than less care of -- draw in rather
>than reject -- those who apparently need help.
>
>Best regards,
>
>
>Christopher A. Brown
>The Technical Diving Video Library  http://www.aulinc.com/video.htm
>ameruwlite@ao*.co*, Fax: 352.669.1256, or Phone: 352.669.5483
>
>Life is short -- this is not a rehearsal.
>
>
>





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