I can't stand this any longer. See:

http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/HOGARTH3.TXT

This article has been on the trimix web site since day one, Billy is a 
plank owner. Wrolf, you are showing yourself to be a slippery weasel of 
Clintonesque proportions.

Just answer the man's questions and quit obfuscating. I have been on the 
hot seat myself on a couple of occasions and believe me if feels better 
if you just lay it out.

Another diver has just died and its pretty fucking obvious what a 
dangerous sport we have. I think that the crap, bullshit and lies on this 
list should be stomped out using the strongest methods possible. If this 
involves curses, personal attacks or other techniques, fine with me. Fuck 
freedom of speech. When it it comes to the sport I love, fuck the 
charlatans, BS artists and profiteers who are ruining the sport, fuck you 
all.

 Jim

Sender: Wrolf Courtney  Date: 8/25/98 11:12 AM

>Your answers to your questions, and more, await your bothering to write up an
>interesting and topical report on the origin of the various practices 
>making up
>the Hogarthian rigging style.
>
>I am giving you until 2400hrs, Wed Aug 26th, to either put up, or shut up, or
>start negotiating - e.g. if you are incapable of addressing this topic, 
>and need
>an alternative sentence.
>
>But you ripped me once.  Don't expect sympathy if you do not at least come up
>with, say, "Dive Facilities where IWR is practiced, with full surface 
>supplied
>gasses and support, in Australia."
>
>BTW, I believe that debate continues on whether Computer Science is a 
>branch of
>Mathematics, Engineering, or what.  Examples, I am a software engineer (a
>subdiscipline of CS), and WWWebster gives software engineering as an 
>example of
>the use of the term engineering.  Yet as John Rose points out, every other
>undergraduate engineering program is accredited by ABET, only CS has its own
>(which was a little after my time).
>
>My wife laughs every time I describe myself as an engineer, and talks about
>putting light bulbs in.  Like I say, opinions vary.
>
>But here's what I want to know.  You can either reply or not, such
>is your choice.
>
>Billy, you have not written any of the major texts in the fields, nor
>performed any direct research.  You are not the director of a major,
>nor even a minor, training agency.  You have substantially less than
>twenty years with the special forces of your country, or underwater
>demolitions, or other diving operations.  (All of this is hypothetical,
>of course.)
>
>My question is not "what gives you the right...".  I already know the
>answer to that.
>
>But rather, why do you not believe in your own right to free speech?
>
>And why do you not believe in all the men and women, of America,
>Britain, and Australia, who died beneath the waves, fighting for your right?
>
>Confused?  See http://home.vicnet.net.au/~victorp/vcontent.htm#Part2.
>
>===============================================
>bdi wrote:
>
>> At 01:37 PM 23/08/1998 EDT, JSGomes117@ao*.co*
>> wrote about Wrolf:
>>
>> >Actually his constant questioning in regards to the
>> >inadequate posts of others has brought out a great
>> >deal of previously unheard information. I find it
>> >interesting that you and others want to silence him.
>>
>> >He has made no claims!
>>
>> He claims he is an engineer.
>>
>> He claims the Director of the WKPP is an anti-semite.
>>
>> >He asks direct questions!
>>
>> He refuses to answer direct questions. Like: Have
>> you ever done a trimix dive, Wrolf? Have you ever done
>> a dive requiring multiple decompression gasses Wrolf?
>> What background in trimix diving do you have, Wrolf,
>> that qualifies you to make assumptions about trimix
>> diving incidents?
>>
>> >He states when he has made assumptions!
>>
>> He made these false assumptions without once acknowledging
>> he didn't understand anything of what he was speculating on...
>>
>> >>She was presumably very negative on the hang (a bad thing),
>> >>using a lot of lift from the BC to acheive neutral buoyancy.
>> >>With her wet suit, she would clearly have been more negative
>> >>on the bottom during her dive.  Presumably she managed to
>> >>achieve at least near neutral buoyancy, as she was able to
>> >>leave the bottom with no reported problem.
>> >>Now, in ascending from thirty to twenty feet, she would have
>> >>needed to dump some air.
>> >>But at twenty feet, she suddenly lost her neutral buoyancy,
>> >>going negative,and heading down.
>>
>> >In My Honest Opinion his posts are more educational and thought
>> >provoking than nearly all of the other posts I've seen to this
>> >list.
>>
>> In Your Honest Opinion? You haven't managed to display any
>> honesty. Though, to be fair, when it comes to sliding sideways,
>> you are way out of your league compared with Wrolf.
>>
>> >J S Gomes
>> >
>> >PS  I don't own bondage wings either!!!
>>
>> That can be fixed.
>>
>> rgrds          billyw
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>
>
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>
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>
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