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From: <JSGomes117@ao*.co*>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:37:03 EDT
To: dlv@ga*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: The noise level and misdirection
In a message dated 8/23/98 12:44:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dlv@ga*.ne*
writes:

<< 
 Wrolf , you are a liability to this list. The noise level and isdirection
 you create are dangerous to newcomers here. Get off of the list, or become a
 permanent lurker before you contribute to a new diver's death.
 
  >>
Actually his constant questioning in regards to the inadequate posts of others
has brought out a great deal of previously unheard information.  I find it
interesting that you and others want to silence him.  
He has made no claims!
He asks direct questions!
He states when he has made assumptions!
He asks for additional information rather than taking things at face value!
His posts are civil, in direct contrast to the rantings and flames of many of
his detractors!

In My Honest Opinion his posts are more educational and thought provoking than
nearly all of the other posts I've seen to this list.

Now, Mr. Volker you state:
>"Jane was in a dry suit. Another area Wrolf is clearly not competent to make
"educated" guesses.
When she ascended from 40 to 30 feet, her drysuit began to gain positive
lift, along with her BC, so she vented her dry suit. having only done 2 dry
suit dives before, her saftey margin in operating her dry suit in a 300 foot
water collumn was similar to allowing a  Wrolf to land  a 747 jumbo jet with
two flying  lessons----chances for  catastrophic errors were enormous. The
instructor who allowed either scenario would need to be held criminally
negligent. Unfortuantely, IANTD does not seem to agree with this, based on
their lack of actions in response to this matter.

As to the wings---had they been Dive Rite or Halcyon ( non-bondage variety)
, even her operational mistake with the dry suit would have been
correctable.  Between her leaky inflator assembly ( which was applying less
air pressure to the wings in response to pressing the inflator button) and
her suicide wings which were wrapped by bungees so tight that they had far
less lift capacity through smaller volume which would stay filled, Jane
began sinking quickly once she got negative, and the only reflex she had
learned was to inflate her BC for lift---relyance on this, particularly
since she was using bondage wings, was the immediate cause of her
re-descent to the bottom.

Dan Volker"<
End of Post

You act as if you were right there next to her during the event and made your
observations as they occurred.  I don't believe that to be the case.
If this is so, please note that fact and any other assumptions you might make
as such in your future posts.

Otherwise it is you who is disseminating falsehoods on this list and
therefore:  
*You* are a liability to this list. The noise level and misdirection *you*
create is dangerous to newcomers here. Get off of the list, or become a
permanent lurker before *you* contribute to a new diver's death.


For those on the list who care or are curious I am a New England Wreck Diver,
I've been diving 20yrs this November and I am also a member of the local
Search and Recovery Dive Team, been doing that since 1982. 
Those of you who are here only to flame, guess what I think of you!!!

Thank you for your time.
J S Gomes

PS  I don't own bondage wings either!!!
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