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Zero, This is the part of your post that caused me to recognize you as a dolt. I will take this opportunity to treat you as I would any new diver responding, rather that the tech diver that you think you are: Dramamine is an antihistamine. And like most drugs in the family of antihistamines it has some side effects that contradict its use while diving. Primary among these side effects is drowsiness and the decrease in physical and mental acuity related to not being alert. This effect can also be affected by other drugs such as sedatives. Nitrogen is a diatomic elemental gas. By it self, and at "normal" pressure it is a mild narcotic. It is also the "base" ingredient in many anesthetics. Under the pressures encountered in diving that property of the gas is increased. Or put another way it becomes more narcotic at depth. These facts, when combined, reveal why taking Dramamine while diving is contraindicated (you shouldn't do it). The package warns against taking sedatives while taking Dramamine. Because of the sedating properties of Nitrogen the use of Dramamine while diving would be contrary to the package warning. This opinion is shared by the DAN Staff Medical Specialist I spoke to today. The Divers Alert Network (DAN) does not recommend the use of ANY medication while diving due to the lack of valid test data available under hyperbaric conditions. Further they caution against diving while using medications that may cause drowsiness, reduction of mental acuity or are contraindicated by the use of sedatives or narcotics. At this time DAN is the authority in the U.S. with regard to dive medicine. Enough of the niceties!!! I learned every bit of this years ago BEFORE my instructor would certify me basic open water! This is BASIC STUFF you moron!!! If you are "recommending" that divers take any medication at any time you are practicing medicine without a license. If you are recommending that divers take Dramamine before a dive you are making medical recommendations that the recognized authority in dive medicine in this country WILL NOT MAKE. You can and should be jailed for what YOU claim you do. You are a fool, an idiot, and a poor excuse for a Captain to put your self and your passengers in jeopardy of that kind. Just so that you can't accuse me of taking you out of context, I am including the entire paragraph where you stated that you "still recommend Dramamine to seasick divers." and "will continue to do so....". At 6:43 PM 8/17/98 , CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* wrote: >The phrase I used was used to use In refrence to dramamine. I never >suggested my having used recreational drugs, I just explained that I don't and >that is a verifiable fact. I still recomend Dramamine to seasick divers. I >will continue to do so untill MDs prove otherwise. As for the "fat slobbery" That was not my claim as I do not know you, never seen you and hope to keep it that way. That was someone else who you straitened out by explaining that you are not a "fat slob" just, in your words, fat. All of which I view as your problem and not my concern. At 12:14 PM 8/18/98 , CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* wrote: >In your first post about Richards death being attributed to falling asleep You >did not mention me, ti's true. Upon reading your post I found it a far stretch >of the envelope of reason that Dramamine caused him to fall so fast asleep as >to drown. So I replied (with a polite post) with some of my experiences with >Dramamine and diving. That is when I started to get the nasty Emails about me >personally. There is no reason for that. Disagree with me Fine, just as I >disagreed with you, while I allowed that we do not know all of the effects of >medications underpressure. There is no reason to get personal or vindictive >with me. I always keep my posts calm and sane. I would expect the same fron >other when responding to me. Claiming fat slobery and likeing to take drugs >while diving, detracts from the issue at hand. It is ugly and uncalled for. >While I reply to these messages, I do not reply in kind but try to use reason. >Disagreeing with some one if fine, no need for the abuse. > >Captain Zero >John Jack >Member E.D.B.A. > Bill (aquadart) Bott -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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