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Very informative post Greg. You really out did yourself this time!!! At 09:37 AM 8/19/98 , Greg Zambeck wrote: >Mr. Bill your off on a tangent again. >. > >---------- >> From: Bill Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*> >> To: CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co*; wrolf@co*.ne* >> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> Subject: Re: Richard Roost: Dead on the Doria (YOU WON'T BELIVE WHY!!) >> Date: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 12:50 AM >Well Mr. Bill I only found 14 spelling mistakes in your statement and Zero >@ 4 > >> Zero, >> >> In a calm and rational manner lets revisit Richard's death and what I >know >> about Richard's diving habits. > >Mr. Bill this is the wrong Trimix found in Richard's double's, and marked >on the content sticker. > >> Richard's gas, taking worst case numbers, was 19/30 Trimix. Although >> hotter than I would recommend for the dive it was not excessively so. In >> round numbers the PPO2 was 1.4 and the END just over 130'. There was no >> sign of panic and no indication that his stage bottles were charged > >Mr. Bill the stage bottle information is not confirmed as of yet. > >(both >> pressure gauges read 0 psi and the valves were off). Later inspection >> showed both stage bottles contained an appropriate amount of gas for the >> anticipated deco. The EAN 36% was charged to 3000 psi and his O2/Ean80, >I >> was unable to determine the contents but believe it was 80 based on >personal >> knowledge of Richard and his habits, was charged to 2200 psi. I did not >> feel the need to press for the analyses of the deco tanks in this case >> because the contents appear to have no bearing in this incident. No gear >> was out of place or disturbed in any indicating convulsion. The reg. was >in >> his mouth and the bite tabs were not damaged in a manner suggesting >> convolution. For these reasons I feel comfortable ruling out >convolution. >> That does not mean that it could not have happened. I also feel that >> although still passable without convolutions Oxtox could be ruled out. I >> know that it is possible to tox and not convulse it is also very rare. >CO2 >> retention would also cause the onset of Oxtox long before causing one to >> black out as a sole reason for this incident so that too was ruled out. > >Mr. Botts the toxicology report showed no Dramamine in his system. >Mr. Botts was sent this information on 8/13/98. > >> Now enter the Dramamine..... My choosing of the word "appears" was not >> accidental or without cause. I still do not have hard proof that Richard >> did take Dramamine before the dive. I also have no creditable evidence >> that he did not. However, adding the information, that Richard >apparently >> took Dramamine, into the mix we get a reasonable explanation as to what >> could have happened. By using a drug that warns against taking with >> sedatives and diving to and END of approximately 130' I don't feel it is >> great stretch to conclude that Richard could well have passed out, >"fallen >> asleep", as a result or mixing a drug (Dramamine) and a sedative >> (hyperbaric Nitrogen). This was and at this time still is my conclusion >> based on the information I, and others in my behalf, gathered. >> > > >> If you disagree or have other conclusions based on facts that you have >> gathered I would be interested in hearing them. If you have other facts >> please provide the source. I don't want a bunch of rumors and guesses >> without factual basis cluttering my mailbox. >> >> The Dramamine debate will continue under a different topic (but not for >long). >> >> At 12:14 PM 8/18/98 , CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* wrote: >> >In your first post about Richard's death being attributed to falling >asleep >> You >> >did not mention me, it's true. Upon reading your post I found it a far >> stretch >> >of the envelope of reason that Dramamine caused him to fall so fast >asleep as >> >to drown. So I replied (with a polite post) with some of my >experiences >> with >> >Dramamine and diving. That is when I started to get the nasty Emails >about me >> >personally. There is no reason for that. Disagree with me Fine, just as >I >> >disagreed with you, while I allowed that we do not know all of the >effects of >> >medications underpressure. There is no reason to get personal or >vindictive >> >with me. I always keep my posts calm and sane. I would expect the same >from >> >other when responding to me. Claiming fat slobbery and likening to take >drugs >> >while diving, detracts from the issue at hand. It is ugly and uncalled >for. >> >While I reply to these messages, I do not reply in kind but try to use >> reason. >> >Disagreeing with some one if fine, no need for the abuse. >> > >> >Captain Zero >> >John Jack >> >Member E.D.B.A. >> > >> Bill (aquadart) Bott >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > Bill (aquadart) Bott -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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