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Wrolf, Your insistance on underlining your ignorance with posts like the one below, should justify creating a new category of stupid---we have farm animal stupid, gilliam stupid, and the worst, which is wrolf courtney stupid. Let me make this easy for a moron like you to understand. You do not have the requisite knowledge in tech diving to make ANY posts on this list. Your belief that you can parade Mount or Gilliam around as having been "involved" in making our sport safer by " alerting us to the idea that there was an alternative to deep air even for the 130' to 200' range", is like "praising the tobacco companies for the increased safety they have brought to the world, through their disclaimers about the ties between smoking and cancer". Just like Mount and Gilliam, they would NEVER have mentioned alternatives, if mounting death tolls did not force the issue. Wrolf, get off this list. Each post you add pisses off those that "know" tech diving, and endangers those that do not. Keep going, and sooner or later you will contribute to someone dying, by your obsfucation, confusion, and general misdirection. You appear to be trying hard to be every bit as dangerous as gilliam---but at least butt gilliam has had the sense to avoid posting his stupid ideas to the list ( probably trying to prevent any more obvious electronic trails to him after the next deep air death ). You don't like George and his attitude. Too fucking bad. You said you thought it unfair that I described you as "Dangerous on the net"....well here is more proof. Given your mentality ( or lack of) you would remove the number one source of knowledge from this list, because you don't like it----Wrolf, are you a Jewish Nazi or what? Take your little mama's boy tears and get off the tech list. Go play on some gamers list with all the other losers who prefer fantasy land to real life. Meanwhile, I'd suggest any boat captain reading this, react to Wrolf by banning him from their boat, as representing a clear and present danger if aboard any dive boat. If he does not kill himself, he will be highly likely to contribute to someone else's death. Dan Volker > -----Original Message----- > From: Wrolf Courtney [mailto:wrolf@co*.ne*] > Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 12:24 AM > To: RLatulip@ao*.co* > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: Name That Lie, Re: tripple this Re: CONTINUOUS REBREATHER > DEATHS was Re: De > > > RLatulip@ao*.co* wrote: > > wrolf@co*.ne* writes: > > > > > FEAR AND LOATHING ON THE INTERNET, by Bret Gilliam, > > > http://www.tdiusa.com/articles/fear.html > > > reprinted from Deep Tech Journal, 3rd Quarter 1997. > > > > > > > Oh yah the totaly unbiased article by Bret and his pot smoking > dive buddies! > > Wrolf do you believe everything you read??? > > Nope. Fortunately I was able to get confirmation directly from George > Irvine, which he simultaneously broadcast (or technically, multicast), > on various Internet forums. > > It was only relevant because of the apparent hypocrisy of his attacks on > others, including unsubstantiated and probably untrue ones. > > I have not published yet - so far I have only been asking questions. > And getting answers. > > > > > Your starting to show that your information is completly > worthless especially > > due to the source. Killiam is slamming George because George > dosn't let him > > get away with the bullshit that his agency teaches. > > Brett seemed to flip out at George over George's slamming of Rob Palmer > for deep air. Rob Palmer was unable to respond at the time, being > rather preoccupied with being dead. > > As far as I know, George's postings attacking deep air and other > questionable practices of TDI long predated Rob Palmer's death or any > action against George by Brett or TDI. And quite frankly, Brett's > personal account of how he got mad at George rings true to me. > > For what it is worth, I think that George's overall position on deep air > is correct. As are most of them, when it is about diving. He seems to > me to be lamentably behind the times though, I think that Tom Mount and > Brett Gilliam in "Mixed Gas Diving" alerted us to the idea that there > was an alternative to deep air even for the 130' to 200' range. And > then of course the "Wah-Wah" articles in AquaCorps really drove it home > to us all in a more practical way, including that diving experience, or > industry prominence, did not make you immune. > > > T. Technical > > D. Death > > I. Incremented > > Pretty good. How about "Technically Dead Instructors"? We could throw > in "Instructor And No one That Dives"! Anyone got any more? (Though > check first on http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf/scuba_slang.shtml, I > already have plenty of PADI and NAUI ones.) > > > > > Ray LaTulippe > > -- > Wrolf > > Wrolf's Wreck: http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf > > P.S. At the request of Ken Sallot <kens@ac*.ne*>, I am > "keep[ing] this shit off of Cavers." > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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