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Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
> I don't care about anyone suing me ( that would be welcome - we could
> put the bullshit on trial then )
Your statement seems to be inconsistent with that of your attorney in
this forum. Could one of you clear that up?
> Why is it that when I have an opinion or information, the Wrolfs have
> such a huge problem with that? Is it becuase my opinion carries the
> weight of the best track record in tech diving, and several worlds
> records, as opposed to the words "going to", "planning to " , "only if"
> , "getting ready to", etc??
>
> I think that is the real problem.
Nope. See http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf/index.shtml#techdiver, that
should give you an idea of the real problem, as I see it.
Yes, when you insulted me as your very first post to me, back when you
were a baby net.diver, you certainly got me mad, and have kept me mad
ever since. See
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/subject?acceptable+ppo2s.
Yes I felt (and feel) angry at all the techdiver members who could not
put up with your potty mouth. Not only the lurkers, who's first message
is there last ("I'm outta here, you foul mouthed bunch of wankers").
But the divers that I know, or have met, who told me that they tried it
for a while, and all they saw was uninformative ravings.
But it isn't about that. After all, I have been insulted by
professionals - George doesn't really count.
What counts for me is the suppression of free speech caused by George's
potty mouth, harassment, lies, and overbearing manner.
And at what cost? For all I know, I would be down at Harvey's store
hanging out with him this afternoon, if he had been able to read in
techdiver, from his peers, about the (WKPP?) practice of turning off
your deco gas valve, until use. Or perhaps we would all be hearing from
him about the time that he had one of the QE2 captains that he had been
hanging out with on the cruise back from England, on the dive boat over
the wreck of the Oregon - an occasion of some historical significance.
This is not about who has made the most dives. This is not about who is
a key part of a fantastic underwater exploration team. This is not
about diving exploits.
Its about being a civilized human being, with the ability to engage in
effective discourse. Your potty mouth; your ad hominem attacks; your
lies, deceits, and trickery completely wipe out your message.
They also do collateral damage the messages of all of the other posters
and readers in these forums. By SHOUTING louder than everyone else, you
are suppressing their free speech.
I think the best idea would be for you to leave the techdiver forum,
since it is so full of us strokes, and start your own. There are now
even free services like www.listbot.com for this. I assume that there
are also commercial free services, plus any decent Unix/Linux admin
should now how to get started (majordomo or listserv, plus MHonArc for
archiving, seem to be the best choices.)
This would give you the opportunity to say what you want, to the people
who want to hear. If you want, you can also decide to moderate who can
join your list (I can think of at least one who might not be invited).
Or you can even moderate what messages are broadcast (though this is a
lot of work).
I'll even put a pointer to it on my site.
Thank you all.
--
Wrolf
Wrolf's Wreck: http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf
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