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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:31:15 +0200
From: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: BUDDY REBREATHER INCIDENTS
Nathan,


I can assure you that system faults does occur with the Inspiration
rebreather, it has in the past and will continue to do . It
would bee foolish to think otherwise. Do you really think that it is
fool proof just because it has 2 computers?. In 1997 i
took a course on an early model of the Inspiration rebreather. I wanted
to check out what all this with ccrb was. On a 25m
training dive in Stony cove UK the solenoid jammed in the open position
and spiked my PO2 up to 2.4. It was really quick
and i did not notice the summer signal but i herd the solenoid was
adding gas and i realised that something was fucked. I
looked at my PO2 and the PO2 was at 2.4!!  No reason to panic but still
an experience you would like to avoid. I solved
the problem with adding diluent and shutting off my oxygen supply
bottle. When this kind of problem occurs it also offsets
your bouancy because there is a sudden gas addition to the counter lung.
It nearly made me ballistic in the process. I
managed to hold on to a rock but if i had not the problem might have
magnitued in to a potentatly serious one. So you see,
even though it has redundant computers and all there is absolutely no
guarantee for the unit not to fail. Also If the sensors
give the wrong reading it wont help you the least if you have redundant
computers. The sensors will eventually fail it is a
question of when rather the ever. If you you inspect the sensors after a
dive it literary drips moisture from them. All this
moisture comes from your breathing and there is a lot of moisture from
an hour of diving. Sensors are also sensitive to heat
and will give false readings if you change the temperature. if you read
a manual to an oxygen analyzer it says that you
should not hold the sensor in your hands while analyzing. Why is this?
Because your fingers heat the sensor and from that
they will give incorrect readings. Furthermore, if you analyze your gas
just after you have toped your mix with air you will
have very wacky readings. Often they can differ with 10%!! This is
because the gas in your newly filled tanks are warm
and heat the sensor. in a rebreather the scrubber material heats the gas
significantly and will probably give false readings. If
one of the sensors give bad readings due to heat all of them will. It
does not matter if you have 10 redundant computers
and 10 redundant sensors.
The big problem is that nobody can prove that anything of this have
happened in the recent deaths and we will probably
have continuous mysterius deaths in the future.

Regards,

Nathan Williams wrote:

   From reading various mail items on the subject, it is alleged that
the Buddy rebreather is the problem - not the diver. I would disagree
  with such a sweeping statement. I witnessed a Buddy Inspiration
rebreather accident at a inland diving site in the UK. It was during the

  early part of 1998, during the winter months, and the diver was using
the lake as a training exercise. On his descent he stopped on a 6m
  ledge to carry out checks - where upon he promptly passed out.
Fortunately another diver passed by soon after the event and upon
  finding the diver unconscious, lifted him to the surface. Luckily the
diver survived, although the lift to the surface caused him to
  explode one of his lungs. What was the problem? Simply that he forgot
to turn on his oxygen bottle. After breathing a few circulation's
  through the system, the oxygen level dropped low and he passed out. A
fault with the system ? I think not, rather a problem that could
  of been overcome by a proper surface check. What about failed
electronics? The Buddy comes with twin sets of electronics - master
  and slave configuration, so that if one fails a second set is
available. I think the problems come more with divers lack of experience
in
  using the equipment rather than problems with the unit itself.

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