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From: <GarlooEnt@ao*.co*>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 06:44:10 EDT
To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
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Subject: Re: Doria death August 3, 1998
george 
i agree there is no magic - only hard work & dedication.
hank


In a message dated 8/6/98 3:51:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kirvine@sa*.ne*
writes:

<< Subj:	 Re: Doria death August 3, 1998
 Date:	8/6/98 3:51:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:	kirvine@sa*.ne* (Katherine V. Irvine)
 Reply-to:	kirvine@sa*.ne*
 To:	GarlooEnt@ao*.co*
 CC:	Wahoo2001@ao*.co*, Wahoojan@ao*.co*, Sealass@ao*.co*, JS1SUBAQUA@ao*.co*,
Hookboy@ao*.co*, WreckValle@ao*.co*, PGRN98@ao*.co*, dkovah@ib*.ne*,
Ussfriel@ao*.co*, butler@li*.co*, wahoo2001wrckdvr@wo*.at*.ne*,
kmfs@bt*.ne*, Rubrifolia@ao*.co*, NICKSKYDIV@ao*.co*, algolden3@ju*.co*,
captbill@je*.co*, Captdeep6@ao*.co*, chris_tyls@me*.co*,
mail@wa*.or*, CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co*, wkikta@ci*.co*, CFriel@GC*.co*,
dkovach@ib*.ne*, Shnesmith@ao*.co*, THEBEARD21@ao*.co*, ggentile@de*.co*,
HESSIANS@ao*.co*, Wrckdvr@wo*.at*.ne*, JoelSilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*,
Scaleworks@ao*.co*, LouiseHow@ao*.co*, B2@cs*.co*, gzambeck@us*.ne*,
heseltine@ea*.ne*, underh2o@ma*.ex*.co*, scatsta@mc*.co*,
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TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*, cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
halcyon@ha*.ne*
 
 Hank, I am sure you are right, but I am also sure that mix is not mix
 unless here is some serious helium in it. I am also quite sure that
 these dives can be executed safely, with controlled risk. I know about
 that, I do the absolute worst insanity and have no problem with it. You
 know me, you have dove with me, and you know I have no magic. I just do
 it right. 
 
 GarlooEnt@ao*.co* wrote:
 > 
 > george,
 > i am convinced that diving deep air adds far more risks then is needed. it
 > seems to me that many more of the guys coming out on the Doria are using
mix
 > rather than diving air.
 > but i think that while the things you have mentioned are factors i really
 > think that the main factor or biggest culperit is the greed factor.
 > the divers that first come out need to be encoraged by the others in
 > downplaying the artifact thing. the divers that start slowly & enjoy the
wreck
 > for what it has to offer in it's beauty & then get to be familiar with it &
 > then dive with a buddy diffrent spots on her --learn.
 > so far as i catell the two deths prior to this one fall into this catagory.
 > they were diving mix (i don't know what the mix was-but i have to assume it
 > was somewhat better than air).
 > er all are on an edge in our dives, it only takes one extra mistake at the
 > wrong moment (ie -your last 19 grand dive- had you missed that line & had
to
 > take ten or fifteen minutes in finding it-purhapse the results would have
been
 > different).
 > we all have had problems the difference with us & some of the others is
that
 > we are not afraid to talk about them.
 > we try to be open - because someone may catch on & learn from it.
 > hank
 
 
  >>
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