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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:49:58 -0400
From: Jeff Bentley <jbentley@cr*.co*>
To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
CC: techdive@ea*.ne*, techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     cavers@ca*.co*
Subject: Re: re hose routing - IT gets worse...
John,

It gets worse John.

NO ONE who is worth a damn will ever dive with you with your
long hose on the left post.

check your back for "kick me" signs,
Jeff




Katherine V. Irvine wrote:

> John, this is what I mean by "Dive Shop Monkeeism". You are so stupid
> and so low on the intellectual food chain that nothing you say even
> makes cursory sense. You put this stupidity together in a complete
> vacuum, rather than looking at the dynamics of the situation. This is my
> complaint about dive instruction - the sub human "intelligence" that
> seems to come as standard equipment with most of you . You remind me of
> a raccoon that picks up food with its hands and appears to "wash" it in
> water before eating it - still a filthy, stupid rodent.
>
>   If you could read, and if you could hold more than one thought in that
> pea brain of yours for a split second, you would see the whole picture
> with gear rigging. Of course, I do not have the vast experience and
> ability in tech diving that you dive shop wizzards and IANTD or TDI
> instructors possess ( God only knows where you get it, not from doing
> anying that is standard fare for me) .
>
>   Let's look it over. The backup reg is on the left. Proper regs feed
> right to left ( not the bullshit shower heads ). The backup hangs around
> the neck. Tht means it goes on the left post. We all know that valves
> turn off clockwise, on counter. That means the reality is the left valve
> can roll off. We know that this is only half the problem. The other half
> is break off after roll off - the real risk. Therfore, you need a way
> out of that. This is done with the isolator and by putting the inflator
> ( WHICH IS YOUR THIRD REG ) on the right side which can roll on or break
> off, but not roll off. Only the absolute worst dive shop monkee would
> put the long hose on the left post - the worst bottom feeding, screw
> your buddy, short sighted static thinking moron ( I realize that does
> not narrow the field much in dive instruction. I can count the good dive
> intructors I know on one hand, maybe two hands).
>
>    The pressure guage goes on the left where it can be read while
> scootering , among other things tha you may never find out about.
>
>    Divers want to learn real life methods that will hold up as they
> advance and add gear or complexity. All you know is how to stand up in
> the swimming pool when something goes wrong, and it shows.
>
>    I suggest you shut up, and leave the information to those of us who
> have some. While your inarticulate street bum logic may seem real smart
> to you, it is embarrassing to those of us who actually do the diving and
> have a track record that you can not even fathom. What strokes like you
> are doing to this sport is equally embarrassing, and reading the slop
> you post to this list goes as long way towards explaining it. You are a
> dangerously stupid moron, and you really need to shut the hell up now.
>    There is no "modification" to our methods - you do not understand
> them, do not pretend to "wash" your food on this list with me around. I
> can spot a dumb ass 3000 miles away, and you are so rock stupid and have
> proven it so many times on here that one would think you would have shut
> up by now . Unlike the local goobers, your stupidity is not the least
> bit entertaining. You are just plain dangerous, and the "tragic
> situation" that you allude to is that YOU teach diving - that is
> "tragic".
>
> ********
>  From the pen of Johnny Walker ----
>
>   The Idiot wrote:
> > If you ran your long hose off your right post and you had to deal with
> >an out of gas diver, you could experience the reality of roll off at >the
> >worst possible time.  Hypothetically, after handing off you long hose
> >from the right post you grab the back-up reg on your left post, its >been
> >rolled off. Now you have a second, possibly tragic problem.
> > This an example of why I run my long hose(primary reg)from the left
> >post.
> >            John
>
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