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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 06:57:08 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: techdive@ea*.ne*
CC: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, cavers@ca*.co*
Subject: re hose routing - let's demonkeeize this one now
John, this is what I mean by "Dive Shop Monkeeism". You are so stupid
and so low on the intellectual food chain that nothing you say even
makes cursory sense. You put this stupidity together in a complete
vacuum, rather than looking at the dynamics of the situation. This is my
complaint about dive instruction - the sub human "intelligence" that
seems to come as standard equipment with most of you . You remind me of
a raccoon that picks up food with its hands and appears to "wash" it in
water before eating it - still a filthy, stupid rodent.

  If you could read, and if you could hold more than one thought in that
pea brain of yours for a split second, you would see the whole picture
with gear rigging. Of course, I do not have the vast experience and
ability in tech diving that you dive shop wizzards and IANTD or TDI
instructors possess ( God only knows where you get it, not from doing
anying that is standard fare for me) .

  Let's look it over. The backup reg is on the left. Proper regs feed
right to left ( not the bullshit shower heads ). The backup hangs around
the neck. Tht means it goes on the left post. We all know that valves
turn off clockwise, on counter. That means the reality is the left valve
can roll off. We know that this is only half the problem. The other half
is break off after roll off - the real risk. Therfore, you need a way
out of that. This is done with the isolator and by putting the inflator
( WHICH IS YOUR THIRD REG ) on the right side which can roll on or break
off, but not roll off. Only the absolute worst dive shop monkee would
put the long hose on the left post - the worst bottom feeding, screw
your buddy, short sighted static thinking moron ( I realize that does
not narrow the field much in dive instruction. I can count the good dive
intructors I know on one hand, maybe two hands).

   The pressure guage goes on the left where it can be read while
scootering , among other things tha you may never find out about.

   Divers want to learn real life methods that will hold up as they
advance and add gear or complexity. All you know is how to stand up in
the swimming pool when something goes wrong, and it shows. 

   I suggest you shut up, and leave the information to those of us who
have some. While your inarticulate street bum logic may seem real smart
to you, it is embarrassing to those of us who actually do the diving and
have a track record that you can not even fathom. What strokes like you
are doing to this sport is equally embarrassing, and reading the slop
you post to this list goes as long way towards explaining it. You are a
dangerously stupid moron, and you really need to shut the hell up now.  
   There is no "modification" to our methods - you do not understand
them, do not pretend to "wash" your food on this list with me around. I
can spot a dumb ass 3000 miles away, and you are so rock stupid and have
proven it so many times on here that one would think you would have shut
up by now . Unlike the local goobers, your stupidity is not the least
bit entertaining. You are just plain dangerous, and the "tragic
situation" that you allude to is that YOU teach diving - that is
"tragic".

******** 
 From the pen of Johnny Walker ----

  The Idiot wrote:
> If you ran your long hose off your right post and you had to deal with
>an out of gas diver, you could experience the reality of roll off at >the
>worst possible time.  Hypothetically, after handing off you long hose
>from the right post you grab the back-up reg on your left post, its >been
>rolled off. Now you have a second, possibly tragic problem.
> This an example of why I run my long hose(primary reg)from the left
>post.      
>            John


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