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> I have other items that are "non standard" that i use, I have lights that are > overvolted pieces of shit but i use them because i cant afford the good ones. > My snaps are all brass, becasue the only big stainless like I need, I saw for > 14 bucks a snap and I need at least twenty of em. I am trying not to buy more > of the crap, because of the money. I understand money problems, but the answer > is not buying more crap gear cause its cheaper, or trying to bullshit your way > around the problem. > > The place Im living in I cant have big cylinders , they practically shit about > the scuba bottles as it is. So I cant make my own mix, and you know about the > agency route for it. I try to dial the nitroxes down and I dont dive deep- > deep. > > That being said yes I was doing it wrong that day. I can admit that. > > Now can you do the same and admit that the bondage--Im sorry,you dont use > bungee, the double bladder wing is less than an ideal piece of gear? Yes, did that several posts ago. However take your own situation, but say for example you had bought PST 104's back when they were the rage. A bit more negative than the Steel 100's. So you have double steel tanks, manifold, and I suppose about >$600 invested in that setup minimum. You mostly dive caves but are blessed say with living near a large body of warm water, warm enuf that frankly in a drysuit you'd likely overheat, and even much of a wetsuit is more than you'd prefer. You have to invest in a set of wings still. If it was only a $100 cost adder, why not buy the dual-bladder wings, rather than investing another ~$400 in a set of AL80's. Maybe its a place like where you live and 4 tanks just ain't gonna cut it. But your main love is caving, so you want the one set of tanks you own to be well-suited for that, and decide you will work around them in the other conditions. Where did this all begin... with shouts of bondage wings are crap and are killing the nations children (I exaggerate a bit).... On the "bad" scale, I'd say people were trashing them to about an 8 out of 10. Your diving rig on the "bad" scale (with the HP tanks) is what maybe a 1 or a 2? BFD. But by the same token, I wouldn't rate the dual-bladder wings as more than a 2-3 on the "bad" scale. Certainly not "ideal", but maybe just the right piece of gear to bring other non-ideal pieces of gear into a rig that still provides for the safety of the diver. > PS ... And while we are looking at previous posts, you never told me why you > cant use double al 80's with the numbers to back it up. What do you want to do > in that warm water, where consumption should be less, that requires more than > 160 cubic ft of gas? I was waiting on that to dig out some mix tables and run a profile or two based on something Bill Mee had said. At any rate, I think what I was scheming was something like a dive with double AL80's to 166'. With a SAC rate of .4 or .5 you get 22 or 18 minutes before you must turn the dive (diving 1/3's). Wanted to run it thru DECOM to see what the minimum deco would be, only have air tables handy at work. So hence the delay. And I know you'll be sad, but I'm going diving, so I'll be out of touch for a few days :-( but if someone wants to run a best mix and min deco profile in the interim. Point being for the right wreck, I could see wanting more time than that. Off a public boat, maybe not, but off a private boat in calm conditions, sure. Anyway, my point was trying to get someone to justify how these wings were so awfully bad and terrible, or whether they were simply "less than ideal". I don't have a set, and never owned and sold a set. I have OMS 98's (which everyone else calls 95's) and AL80's. I have no issue diving the 98's wet. They are swimmable. Again, this wasn't for my gear, this whole thing was because I saw (IMO) logic being trampled beyond all recognition and wanted to try to put a reality check in before we tossed out all the OMS wings-owners as Macarthyite(sp?) Communists. Have a good weekend, Mike -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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