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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:44:57 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: Raimo4252@ao*.co*
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Subject: Re: Another NE Death
Right on the money, Bob. I concur with Bob Raimo on all of this. 


Raimo4252@ao*.co* wrote:
> 
>  >>By the why harvey dove the same for almost 40 years single tanks wet suit
> (tried dry suits and didnt like them) just because you didnt agree with the
> way he dove or the equipment he used dosent make it right or wrong. it worked
> for him.>>
> 
> Sorry Steve, I disagree. Harvey dived stupidly, now he is dead. And it affects
> ALL OF US, in one way or another. Steve, of all the boat captains up here you
> probably have the most influence on tech divers. I'd like to see you use that
> to better the industry and help prevent accidents. When someone dies due to
> stupidity, all the crybabies defend the dead ones because they were "nice
> guys". How many more nice guys are we going to bury? Everyone crys about
> regulation and how they fear it, but no one wants to step up and do something
> about it while we can. You might be one person, ones and twos add up quick.
> 
> >> i dont believe you will be around for forty years in the diving business.
> you will move on the bigger and better things. And make money, not like in the
> diving business. >>
> 
> Hell, I did'nt think I'd be around this long :)
> 
>  >>Remember Bonnie wasnt she one of your students.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and for jeff
> remember he sent bonnie in with the tank with no O2 content and you threw him
> out and continued to train and fill bonnie tanks and a good profit I believe.
>  doing our lanudry on the internet is educating a lot of people.
>  your friend
>  steve >>
> 
> Time for some facts kimosabee:
> 
> 1)After Jeff got thrown out of my store by me (he brought the unlabled, blue
> 80 with O2 into my store, not Bonnie, and jeff blamed Bonnie, which is still
> to this day unclear to me). I never trained Bonnie after that, I believe she
> started diving and training with someone from the old East Coast Divers out of
> staten island. Anyway, I threw Bonnie out of my store one other time with the
> manager from the old Scuba Shoppe. They brought in nitrox tanks to be filled
> and had no idea what was in them, and they had just finished diving them. So I
> told them never to come back.
> 
> 2)Profit? Let's not talk Profit here Steve. That's the whole point to being in
> business or going to work. You do it, I do it, and so does everyone. I'm damn
> proud of it. And Some of that profit I will give thanks to you, for referring
> me. I have done the same for you.
> 
> Dirty Laundry-who cares. my point is simple. Too many deaths, bad for us. Lets
> fix the problem. I came to you Steve once before to get the EDBA to do
> something to help prevent these types of accidents, improperly marked tanks
> being allowed on the boats. It's certainly not a cure all, but it is a step in
> the right direction. Maybe you can bring this up at the next EDBA meeting.
> 
> Regards, Bob


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