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From: <Raimo4252@ao*.co*>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:38 EDT
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Subject: Re: Another NE Death
In a message dated 98-07-14 16:22:54 EDT, Wahoo2001 writes:

<< Bob, your are speaking out of turn, first harveys tanks were alway
marked
the same way you marked your tanks,  with masking tape. remember I have
pictures of your customers  tanks. >>

We have always used masking or duct tape to indicate the % of gas and date,
yes (and still do). But every tank, including mine and my customers are
CLEARLY MARKED AS OXYGEN, DECO GAS, NITROX ETC. Show me a picture otherwise
and I will eat my words - you can't, I know that, you know that, and any
customer that comes to my store knows that. Or do you forget me throwing Jeff
YOU KNOW WHO out of my store for UNMARKED TANKS several years ago??? And, IF
YOU RECALL STEVE, I APPROACHED YOU TO HELP RESOLVE THESE PROBLEMS SINCE YOU
WERE IN THE EDBA.

>>Harvey was an icon in the diving comunity before you were born. We dove
together for many year when I had a small operation in brooklyn and he set the
pace back in the early sixty and seventies of being a dive shop operator that
went diving not talking diving. Dive operators hated Harvey because he sold
equipment for what he wanted to and they couldnt or would sell at his low
prices.  and as far as his money problems didnt you have money problens in
your first store? >>

Not money problems in  my store Steve, but supply problems. As a matter of
fact, Harvey helped me out tremendously in the early days supplyin me with
product I could not get. And when he ran into problems, guess who supplied
him??? Yeah, thats right, me. And guess who filled his Nitrox tanks in the
early 90's?? Yeah, me again. He used to tape money to his tanks and send them
to me in a taxi cab or with a customer.

>>I'm pretty sure he did more dives a year than you, even when you were active
diving... and if you werent there diving the day he died, your getting your
information second hand and some of the details are only coming out know, If
he wanted to committ sucided, he wouldnt have left his bag of lobsters to die,
he loved the chalange of catching lobster not killing them. .
 Harvey was a leader and maybe you didnt like the way he lead, but he never
followed or got caught up in pier pressure and make an extreme deep dive just
to impress the people he was with.>>

Harvey was nothing more than a character, never a leader. At least not in my
days. Lets, see, every dive I was on with Harvey, he'd suck O2 on the boat
because he screwed up diving. I swam out to get him several times when he was
being a leader. How many times the boat capt. would not let him in the water.
And as for unmarked, unanalyzed cylinders, now we are talking first hand
knowlege, not second hand.  I cannot even count how many times I had a problem
with Harvey in my old store with his bullshit unmarked tanks, unanalyzed
tanks.

Harvey always broke the rules, and you know it.

It's time we started learning from these stupid mistakes. Hell, how many have
I made over the years. How many of us make mistakes and learn from them verses
not learning from them. The death toll will continue to rise if these
practices are continued.

Still Your friend , Bob

 please dont give me any demerets for my poor spelling. >>

No sweat.
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